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Date:      Fri, 19 Mar 1999 21:53:33 -0500
From:      Kurt Seel <kseel@utcorp.com>
To:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: SKIP on 3.1
Message-ID:  <36F30DAD.A0434F06@utcorp.com>
References:  <199903182204.OAA94934@bubba.whistle.com> <36F18016.5BA99C21@utcorp.com> <19990319001124.A6669@keltia.freenix.fr> <14065.41601.661191.482612@avalon.east>

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Anthony Kimball wrote:

> Quoth Ollivier Robert on Fri, 19 March:
> : According to Kurt Seel:
> : >  The only caveat for is that I can't talk to the far 10.x net from one of
> : > the routers :-(
> :
> : That's why NAT & RFC-1918 address space usage is evil.
>
> Why?  Have you determined the cause of the failure, and found
> that the tunnel/NAT were correctly configured, but protocol
> constraints prevent any configuration from operating nominally?
>

 No, no, no. It has nothing to do with 'evil'. It

has to do with what interface a socket gets opened

on. I can't use iptunnel :

http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/iptunnel/

to redirect the default route's interface!!! It

would be a catch-22. Iptunnel is a simple tunnelling

util (thanks, Ruslan!) designed to solve problems

simply and today.

 I hope my children live to see an ipv6 internet!

--
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
                -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759



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Anthony Kimball wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Quoth Ollivier Robert on Fri, 19 March:
<br>: According to Kurt Seel:
<br>: >&nbsp; The only caveat for is that I can't talk to the far 10.x
net from one of
<br>: > the routers :-(
<br>:
<br>: That's why NAT &amp; RFC-1918 address space usage is evil.
<p>Why?&nbsp; Have you determined the cause of the failure, and found
<br>that the tunnel/NAT were correctly configured, but protocol
<br>constraints prevent any configuration from operating nominally?
<br>&nbsp;</blockquote>

<pre>&nbsp;No, no, no. It has nothing to do with 'evil'. It</pre>

<pre>has to do with what interface a socket gets opened</pre>

<pre>on. I can't use iptunnel :</pre>

<pre><A HREF="http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/iptunnel/">http://www.ucb.crimea.ua/~ru/FreeBSD/iptunnel/</A></pre>;

<pre>to redirect the default route's interface!!! It</pre>

<pre>would be a catch-22. Iptunnel is a simple tunnelling</pre>

<pre>util (thanks, Ruslan!) designed to solve problems</pre>

<pre>simply and today.</pre>

<pre>&nbsp;I hope my children live to see an ipv6 internet!</pre>

<pre>--&nbsp;
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759</pre>
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