From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 13 17:27:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32DF716A49E for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:27:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (troutmask.apl.washington.edu [128.208.78.105]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723DC43E7C for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:19:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: from troutmask.apl.washington.edu (localhost.apl.washington.edu [127.0.0.1]) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kADHEsjU005896; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:14:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu) Received: (from sgk@localhost) by troutmask.apl.washington.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id kADHEsYK005895; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:14:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sgk) Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:14:54 -0800 From: Steve Kargl To: Steve Franks Message-ID: <20061113171454.GA5806@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <539c60b90611130850j342a937dmdde6d826258ca8fb@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <539c60b90611130850j342a937dmdde6d826258ca8fb@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: now from way-out in left field X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 17:27:46 -0000 On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 09:50:32AM -0700, Steve Franks wrote: > So I know you can open up 4 or more virtual desktops in X. And I know > you can open up any number of terminals. But I sort of like the nice > clean look and feel of a plain old vtty for many tasks. Unfortuately, > X, it would seem, steals all the F-keys, and the screen it would seem. > Is there any slight of hand I can do to switch between X on vtty1 and > my other enabled vtty's? I've also had KDE lock up solid (as I result > I'm evaluating gnome), and that would be a good method to fix things, > instead of the power switch, I would think. Obviously, I've marked > myself as a noob, and not to step on toes, but ctrl-alt-del on winNT's > generally does get one the task manager, unless you are bluescreened. > If I'm on a tty I feel reasonalby sure I can kill anything locked. > Unfortunately, the modern world needs X sometimes, lynx only goes so > far, but then I'm at X's mercy, follow me? Ok, I'll shut up now. > Have mercy on my opinions ;) > Unless you've done something with remapping the keyboard in X and you've done something to /etc/ttys, ctrl-alt-Fn where n = 1, ..., 12 should work. -- Steve