Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2015 00:54:55 +0200 From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de> To: Quartz <quartz@sneakertech.com> Cc: FreeBSD questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Questions about freebsd-update Message-ID: <20150711005455.07157509.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <55A03E72.3010703@sneakertech.com> References: <559C6B73.8050509@sneakertech.com> <559EA8B8.8080701@sneakertech.com> <559ED47E.8050905@hiwaay.net> <559F25F8.1030508@sneakertech.com> <559F2853.5000103@sneakertech.com> <20150710040949.42c73f4d.freebsd@edvax.de> <559F2C78.6090102@sneakertech.com> <20150710043231.8c7cb899.freebsd@edvax.de> <559F3490.2050508@sneakertech.com> <20150710210850.a5194abe.freebsd@edvax.de> <55A03E72.3010703@sneakertech.com>
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On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 17:51:46 -0400, Quartz wrote: > >>>>> The tools involved here are already part of the base system (except > >>>>> they got manually removed, which renders the OS somehow incomplete). > >>>>> A system installation typically uses compiler, assembler, linker, > >>>>> installer, and make, which are all contained in the base distribution > >>>>> of the OS. > >>>> > >>>> Wait.... isn't all the build stuff part of the 'src' option during > >>>> install? > >>> > >>> No. The "src" distribution contains the sources which will > >>> be available in the /usr/src subtree. > >>> > >>>> If you unselect that, how does make/install apply patches if > >>>> the files it's patching aren't there? > >>> > >>> It doesn't do that, but the tools make, install, and patch > >>> themselves will be available. > >> > >> I understand that the utils themselves are still installed regardless, > >> but in order for the 'patch' command to have something to patch against, > >> doesn't 'src' have to be installed also? > > > > Yes, /usr/src _has to be_ present - either by installing src.txz, > > as a result of freebsd-update's component src, or via SVN checkout. > > The process then involves building from source of course. This is > > the most transparent way to deal with updates. > > > > I'm still confused here. > > I was under the impression that if I ever wanted to be able to update > the system via patches, I had to leave the 'src' option selected during > install. Are you saying that is or is not true? It's important that you have /usr/src; _how_ you get it is not important. During installation, src.txz will be uncompressed, that's _one_ way to do it. SVN checkout is another. And you can also use freebsd-update to obtain the "src" component. You only need the source tree if you're going to apply patches to the source and then recompile the system; the binary update method does not require it - but it _can_ be used to keep your local source tree current. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...
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