From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 20 09:29:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BB8106564A for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:29:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: from wf-out-1314.google.com (wf-out-1314.google.com [209.85.200.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E07A48FC13 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:29:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from xkyanh@gmail.com) Received: by wf-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id 24so1509499wfg.7 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:29:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:organization:x-operating-system :user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5wcyfTLdt3uX/Oq1+dPl2tQNOztXU5qUMVi8Wb+0bSg=; b=eGpClEM+r3k4BBVx4FQQXjIC7Ci6Cg9JUNH0B0RjVr5CQgcyBsgzTtVfGFdNZkN0LW +mWUT/w8obDspevFoqdcU602XsBRK+IvpenPb6e7ZyDTRm+usxf727odDOo+V77siMIR JADJAdzsR4BUgTBooywPCvmbomUlrL++LAOaI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-operating-system:user-agent:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=XUgq/T9XhdCo2uPPLMyPgVhPFjZFOZFeM80JeWwud5wMdvDmOkSPofZbEZu2E+kmh9 RIEoTwkMtoPBRPUW0AK634N/jrcx6yZCweI4+Z3Rh+tUxGBeG0W8mj1i45+YT/W+oELk d6MePyyztzlbkejgPrP8CmRCAjED6W+igB518= Received: by 10.142.132.2 with SMTP id f2mr1272564wfd.309.1240219775105; Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:29:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from icy.local ([203.210.226.136]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 24sm16444471wff.2.2009.04.20.02.29.31 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:28:02 +0700 From: "=?UTF-8?B?S+G7sw==?= Anh, =?UTF-8?B?SHXhu7NuaA==?=" To: Jelte Jansen Message-ID: <20090420162802.5959c7fa@icy.local> In-Reply-To: <49EC305D.4010202@NLnetLabs.nl> References: <754723275-1240208442-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1046132361-@bxe1006.bisx.prodap.on.blackberry> <49EC305D.4010202@NLnetLabs.nl> Organization: Vietnamese TeX Users Group X-Operating-System: Windows 98 User-Agent: Moveup browser X-Mailer: Moveup mail client (windows 98) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, anthony.rasat@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT: 2d password X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 09:29:36 -0000 On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:20:45 +0200 Jelte Jansen wrote: > Anthony M. Rasat wrote: > > K=E1=BB=B3 Anh, Hu=E1=BB=B3nh wrote: > >> I've just found a quite good way: use 2-d moving on the keyboard. > >=20 > > Do you know that many people has following password? > >=20 >=20 > Correct me if i'm wrong, for i'm not really up-to-date on password > cracking algorithms, but i think that keyboard patterns are amongst > the thing cracking tools try before switching to brute force, so in > that sense this wouldn't make a very strong password. >=20 Thank you all for your comments. In fact, I use generated password and PublicKey to login to my remote hosts= . I also following some basic rules (for e.g, change password regurarly). I= just need half-generated passwords for some popular purposes (local machin= es, for e.g). Some good ways are also very useful to help end users to prot= ect themself. Because it's very hard to remember generated password, it's stupidly that I= used to use some mathematics function to generate password (and keep that = function secret). But maths. functions is not easy to use (need a computer = to generate password). Finally I get into 2-d moving on the keyboard as described in my first post= . I check some passwords in http://www.testyourpassword.com/ and see that s= ome stupid patterns on keyboard show a "STRONG" status. I event get the BES= T password with some simple moving around symbols and letters. Though Athony said "qweasdzxc" is a popular I still wonder whether we can u= se complex patterns on keyboard? And what's tool that help me to check pass= word strength? Regards, PS: !!WARNING!! Discussing this topic may cause your habits to be known by others. I don't = have intend to gather your information. Thank you for your understanding. --=20 Ky Anh, Huynh Homepage: http://viettug.org/