From nobody Fri Aug 6 17:29:14 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-embedded@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8138A1375E6B for ; Fri, 6 Aug 2021 17:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GhCC435kpz4vFR; Fri, 6 Aug 2021 17:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.not-for.work (onlyone.not-for.work [IPv6:2a01:4f8:201:6350::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: lev/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3841FF00E; Fri, 6 Aug 2021 17:29:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:d4ac:3ef:d0d6:238a] (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:d4ac:3ef:d0d6:238a]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.not-for.work (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F1BACD15E; Fri, 6 Aug 2021 20:29:15 +0300 (MSK) Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PCEngines alternatives To: mike tancsa , freebsd-embedded References: From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: <63a3a2fc-fc5b-513a-5913-ccb2d8e95f38@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2021 20:29:14 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.12.0 List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-embedded List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 03.08.2021 15:33, mike tancsa wrote: > I love these boards a lot, but it looks like availability is going to be > really tight for some time.  Does anyone have any suggestions for > alternatives ?  ARM seems to be looking better and better, however, I > need something with more than one built in ethernet port (3-4 ideally) > and something with zero fans as the environments tend to be very dirty-- > hence off the shelf Pi4 is not that attractive. I'm using «cheap» Chinese boxes from AliExpress. Intel based, they are varied from low-end Atoms up to i7-7xxxU (and more), from 2 up to 6 Ethernet ports (some have i210, some Realteks), serial consoles (inlucing BIOS via serial console), M.2 slots, etc. There are plenty of configurations to select from. Smallest ones (which has size about 11x11x3cm) can be overheated by high load, but bigger ones (in size of medium-sized book) are rock-solid without additional cooling. But my experience is before-COVID, maybe now, after electronic components shortage, they are not available anymore, need to check. -- // Lev Serebryakov