From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Feb 9 05:58:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10BD916AA97 for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 05:58:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from milla.ask33.net (milla.ask33.net [217.197.166.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4015B43D1D for ; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 05:58:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nick@milla.ask33.net) Received: by milla.ask33.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A8DCC3ABB83; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:00:31 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 15:00:31 +0100 From: Pawel Jakub Dawidek To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20040209140031.GT14639@garage.freebsd.pl> References: <6514.1076282830@critter.freebsd.dk> <20040209.010318.89944026.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pnDjx0H/VpusRTEI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040209.010318.89944026.imp@bsdimp.com> X-PGP-Key-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~pjd/pjd.asc X-OS: FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE-p13 i386 X-URL: http://garage.freebsd.pl User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i cc: phk@phk.freebsd.dk cc: drosih@rpi.edu cc: julian@elischer.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Review/Test: Pseudo-device unit number management patch X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2004 13:58:13 -0000 --pnDjx0H/VpusRTEI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 01:03:18AM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: +> s/I/we/ Others have signed off on this model. Maybe you could +> explain how such a device would exist, and its exact semantics. With +> a cloning device that phk is talking about, you open /dev/foo, and +> /dev/foo0, /dev/foo1, etc are automatically created. This is how +> things work on other systems for cloning devices. +>=20 +> One could argue the wisdom of making the tunnel device clonable (I +> happen to agree with it, but I can see the oppsoing argument). +> However, sensible cloning semantics have been well understood for +> years. BSD is very late to the party in not having these sorts of +> devices before now. Maybe more human-friendly way will be to create /dev/foo0 without request and if someone will open /dev/foo0, device /dev/foo1 will be created... Just an idea. --=20 Pawel Jakub Dawidek http://www.FreeBSD.org pjd@FreeBSD.org http://garage.freebsd.pl FreeBSD committer Am I Evil? Yes, I Am! --pnDjx0H/VpusRTEI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAJ5J/ForvXbEpPzQRAoFMAJ9GnXvrKmSgAqafPJkmNoBhJw3ApgCg4JUZ cpVFtll7t2AUffbMUD3tXZ4= =qkBJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pnDjx0H/VpusRTEI--