From owner-freebsd-qa Thu Feb 17 12:37:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9B137B7AF for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 12:37:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.19 2000/01/29 00:15:43 dmccart Exp $) with ESMTP id NAA16609 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:37:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.10 2000/02/10 21:38:16 steved Exp $) with ESMTP id NAA23712 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:37:06 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-To: X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id PAA21087; Thu, 17 Feb 2000 15:37:06 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: hip186.ch.intel.com: jreynold set sender to jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com using -f From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14508.23537.17216.207130@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 13:37:05 -0700 (MST) To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2 In-Reply-To: <358.950812481@zippy.cdrom.com> References: <14508.14844.27563.348804@hip186.ch.intel.com> <358.950812481@zippy.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 20.3.11 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Thursday, February 17, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: ] > > That's a well-known fact and something which is decribed in XFree86's > annoying pop-up window about mouse behavior. You're just not reading > again, son. :) DOH!!!!!!!!! :/ I concede, Jordan. You're right. RTFM. http://www.xfree86.org/3.3.5/QuickStart3.html#5 However, as I thought about it over lunch, I could still argue the point that under the custom install, maybe sysinstall should still give you a dialog box stating that the mouse might not work. I'm coming at this from the point of view of somebody "new" to Unix and X and wants to try FreeBSD. Maybe they don't know about www.xfree86.org in order to go search FAQs, etc. They just want the GUI that comes with FreeBSD "to work." If we *know* that by choosing a custom install and not enabling moused that XF86Setup has a good chance of not finding the mouse, then I claim it makes sense to present a dialog box before launching the sucker that gives this information. Basically, what you told me ... "RTFM ... you will need to use TAB, blah blah blah, then hit 'a' to apply the changes, then your mouse will be recognized". Perhaps even printing the above URL. If somebody had problems and still couldn't figure it out, maybe they write down the URL and take it to a friend's computer or to work and do a little RTFM'ing on their own. Comments? > Ah, it only does it as root. For some reason the skeleton files still > aren't being utilized properly and this is something I've still to > investigate. It has, at least, always been this way. :) that would be it then ... I didn't fire up X as root, just "me". So, you are saying that this is on the "todo" list? I know you've said sysinstall "needs help" in other mail messages, but is there a specific place to go look in the source? I don't promise miracles, but since I'm the one that brought it up, I'd at least like to try and help fix it .... or, is this something just better "suited for Jordan" (since you're "one" with the code)? > I don't disagree on this, I just see a lot of variance in opinion > concerning "what needs to be set." indeed. I wouldn't have known it either ... when things yacked on me, I just snarfed the setenv's from the mail archives and things have been happy since, so I didn't question it ;-) > As far as another release candidate is concerned, yes, most assuredly > there will be at least one or two more. Good deal. I will install them all. I think this ".0" release will be quite good ..... -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds WCCG, CCE, Higher Levels of Abstraction | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 602-868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message