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Date:      Mon, 13 Apr 2015 02:14:21 +0000
From:      Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Dmitry Marakasov <amdmi3@amdmi3.ru>
Cc:        svn-ports-head@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, marino@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r383466 - in head/x11-toolkits/wxgtk30: . files
Message-ID:  <20150413021420.GB84457@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20150412193356.GJ21982@hades.panopticon>
References:  <201504061849.t36InrtY095320@svn.freebsd.org> <20150410174533.GB77333@hades.panopticon> <55281352.6060904@marino.st> <20150412002519.GG21982@hades.panopticon> <552A0F83.10704@marino.st> <552A30CF.6060204@marino.st> <20150412120900.GH21982@hades.panopticon> <20150412121509.GA99970@FreeBSD.org> <20150412193356.GJ21982@hades.panopticon>

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On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 10:33:56PM +0300, Dmitry Marakasov wrote:
> * Alexey Dokuchaev (danfe@FreeBSD.org) wrote:
> > If one must use C++ to develop e.g. a library intended to be used in
> > open-source projects, they really should stick to c++03 (and make sure
> > their code is fine by gcc42) for at least couple of years from now.
> 
> Absolutely not. C++11 should absolutely be used now. In couple of years
> it'll be c++14.

Feel free to use it at $work; when developing commercial self-contained
and self-sufficient, not-to-be-recompiled, etc. software.  Doing things
in open-source? then stay away from c++11 and above, do the world a favor.

Dmitry, C++ sucks; we might not have anything better than it right now,
but it does not change the fact that it's a horrible language to "get it
right", and endless compatibility issues virtually *everyone* is having
with it speak for itself.

So no, C++11 should *not* be absolutely used now; not in ported software
that is supposed to be built and run across several versions of FreeBSD,
GNU/Linux, Windows, Haiku, etc.

./danfe



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