From owner-freebsd-arch Thu Mar 14 6:20:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mongrel.pacific.net.au (mongrel.pacific.net.au [61.8.0.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C48437B404; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 06:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from dungeon.home (ppp18.dyn249.pacific.net.au [203.143.249.18]) by mongrel.pacific.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id BAA31942; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 01:19:17 +1100 X-Authentication-Warning: mongrel.pacific.net.au: Host ppp18.dyn249.pacific.net.au [203.143.249.18] claimed to be dungeon.home Received: from dungeon.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dungeon.home (8.11.6/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g2EEKLP15630; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 00:20:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from mckay) Message-Id: <200203141420.g2EEKLP15630@dungeon.home> To: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Cc: arch@freebsd.org, mckay@thehub.com.au, obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Unmoronify CVS References: <200203132158.g2DLwW611237@green.bikeshed.org> <20020313143522.A13768@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: from Dag-Erling Smorgrav at "Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:53:01 +0000" Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 00:20:21 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, 13th March 2002, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: >To summarize, val-tags saves a little time in a small number of cases, >is useless in most cases, and outright harmful in many common cases. Val-tags has caused me nothing but irritation. It has never assisted me in any way. It deserves to die. Who here is helped by val-tags? It seems to be just plain wrong from the day it was added. >And all this is a waste of my time; rather than ask why I want it >removed, you should accept that I (and many others) consider it an >incredible nuisance, and focus instead on explaining how *you* benefit >from it, so we can understand why you're opposed to my patch. That's not the normal way to go about things. Normally you explain why changing things is a good idea. Sort of an "innocent until proven guilty" idea. Once you've got a good argument *for* changing things it's time to look for arguments *against* changing it, not the other way round. But that little nit aside (which, let's face it, got up some people's noses), I fully agree with your argument. I'm frankly surprised you had to spell it all out. I expected a chorus of "Hell yeah!" and a quick commit. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message