From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Jan 29 15:33:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFD237B401 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:33:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net [198.65.168.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD75E43E4A for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:33:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fclift@verio.net) Received: from mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (mx.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.10]) by gatekeeper.oremut01.us.wh.verio.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6027F3BF148 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:33:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net (vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net [10.1.1.59]) by mx.dmz.orem.verio.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h0TNXm398193; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:33:48 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 16:40:21 -0700 (MST) From: Fred Clift X-X-Sender: To: William Palfreman Cc: Subject: Re: 4.7-R-p3: j.root-servers.net In-Reply-To: <20030127044456.U23956@aqua.lan.palfreman.com> Message-ID: <20030129163652.J22139-100000@vespa.dmz.orem.verio.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, William Palfreman wrote: > mainstream root occur all the time - abusive behaviour by some > government wannabees, abusive interference by courts in domain name > ownership, ICANN, DDoS attacks, simple volume of traffic problems and Are you saying that there is some other way than courts (or violence) to ultimately resolve things that exist only in terms of law? ie 'ownership'? Since the concept of ownership is basically just a legal definition, then legal means will be (leaving out violence) the ultimate means of resolving issues surrounding it. Fred -- Fred Clift - fclift@verio.net -- Remember: If brute force doesn't work, you're just not using enough. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message