From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 10:09:28 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48FC616A4CE for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:09:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx1.freebsdsystems.com (mx1.FreeBSDsystems.COM [216.138.197.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DB943D46 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2004 10:09:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lnb@FreeBSDsystems.COM) Received: (qmail 34395 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jan 2004 15:22:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO FreeBSDsystems.COM) (lnb@216.235.8.115) by 216.138.197.66 with SMTP; 7 Jan 2004 15:22:34 -0000 Message-ID: <3FFC2444.8090803@FreeBSDsystems.COM> Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 10:22:44 -0500 From: Lanny Baron Organization: Freedom Technologies Corporation User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031205 Thunderbird/0.4 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Leo Bicknell References: <79B4EAB03B5E4649A740A8C1452F606435AF1B@y6001a.umb.corp.umb.com> <3FFAF1D4.4000709@iconoplex.co.uk> <3FFB4499.3050301@iconoplex.co.uk> <20040107145744.GA74418@ussenterprise.ufp.org> In-Reply-To: <20040107145744.GA74418@ussenterprise.ufp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is FreeBSD going? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 18:09:28 -0000 Hi, Leo Bicknell wrote: [snip] > For FreeBSD to appeal to the masses it must install on the latest > and greatest Dell or Gateway or whatever, which means it must include > drivers for today's cheaper-by-the-gross parts from China. Driver > updates in particular need to be very regular, and in the active > -STABLE release, which for now means back-ported to 4.x, even if > that means a complete rewrite because of how different the kernels > are. Otherwise people get forced to run 5.x for a few driver issues, > and then complain like crazy about all the other stuff that's not > ready for prime time. > Just what we are wondering. Where is all the FreeBSD community support for a Server company that fully supports FreeBSD? It certainly is not in this letter. As for the parts from China part, we don't buy any 'cheaper by anything' components. We don't look for a way to sell 'cheap servers'. We soley build that which runs extremely well on our Servers with FreeBSD 4.x or 5.x on it. When I read about people who buy Servers from the major players the large computer companies such as those listed above and who by the way, don't give a flying *#&@ about FreeBSD, I wonder why the principles here continue to be loyal to the FreeBSD community. > Mom said it best, small bites, chew with your mouth closed. > -- =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+= Lanny Baron Proud to be 100% FreeBSD http://www.FreeBSDsystems.COM Toll Free: 1.877.963.1900 =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=