From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Jan 5 04:06:44 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE014D7C86 for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 04:06:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dg@dglawrence.com) Received: from dglawrence.com (dglawrence.com [50.76.111.10]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mailx.dglawrence.com", Issuer "mailx.dglawrence.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8zTJ2Khqz3BxY for ; Tue, 5 Jan 2021 04:06:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dg@dglawrence.com) Received: from mailx.dglawrence.com ([10.19.1.8]) by dglawrence.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 10546Yrb082075 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:06:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dg@dglawrence.com) Received: (from dg@localhost) by mailx.dglawrence.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 10546YQ5082074; Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:06:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dg@dglawrence.com) Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2021 20:06:34 -0800 From: David G Lawrence To: Warner Losh Cc: Current FreeBSD Subject: Re: git non-time-sequential logs Message-ID: <20210105040634.GF4278@mailx.dglawrence.com> References: <94447.1609779520@critter.freebsd.dk> <94622.1609782682@critter.freebsd.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (dglawrence.com [10.19.1.8]); Mon, 04 Jan 2021 20:06:35 -0800 (PST) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4D8zTJ2Khqz3BxY X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2021 04:06:44 -0000 > Yes. Git has never been a true/pure VCS. However, it does offer enough > VCS-like features to create a shared distributed versioned tree that's > useful to the project. > > As for date order, we could also add a commit hook that requires the date > to be properly set, but that creates friction for developers. Is that > friction worth the benefits? I don't think so, but as you say we could also > add notes... but since there's no checkout by date feature, I'm not sure > what good it would do. Warner, Why is it that the project can't continue to operate the SVN server in addition to Git, gatewaying with -current as is being done with 12-stable? As a developer, I definitely need monotonic revision numbers and reliable dates when I'm trying to troubleshoot a regression. I understand that you want better 'collaboration' in FreeBSD, but why can't we have the best of both worlds? -DG * David Greenman-Lawrence * * Pave the road of life with opportunities.