From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Feb 27 10:34:05 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id KAA10852 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:34:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from haldjas.folklore.ee (Haldjas.folklore.ee [193.40.6.121]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA10781 for ; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 10:33:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from narvi@localhost) by haldjas.folklore.ee (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA03800; Tue, 27 Feb 1996 20:33:39 +0200 Date: Tue, 27 Feb 1996 20:33:39 +0200 (EET) From: Narvi To: Jerry Kendall cc: Peter Dufault , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: xforms maintenance tools (was Re: Tcl/Tk sysinstall) In-Reply-To: <96Feb27.093616est.20485-2@janus.border.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, Jerry Kendall wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, Peter Dufault wrote: > > > > > Tcl/TK is the best 90% solution I've seen. I've used it a lot > > lately, including my own fastgraph widget for displaying collected > > signals. My biggest complaint is the creeping size of my scripts, some > > of which have ballooned to 1000 lines, and the difficulty to really > > get everything right which I believe would be more easily done in C. > > Starting over now I'm sure I'd do it better. The newer TK also addresses > > some of the comments I've seen on this thread and does a better > > job without any tweaking. > > > > I have been working on a diskmaint utility to 'fdisk/disklabel' a newly > added drive to FreeBSD. I tried with 'dialog' and found it to be seriously > 'limiting'. Gave up on 'dialog'. Then tried to use 'Tcl/Tk' and found that > to be to cumbersome. > > Now I am using the xforms library and the fdesign gui builder... It looks > great and works very well. Have decided to write some other utilities > once I have finished the 'diskmaint' utility.. > > With time, I hope to build an entire suite of tools to do large amounts > of regular system administration with X. > > Things I have in mind are :PPP/SLIP, DNS/BIND, user manager(setup, passwords > and the like), uucp manager, printer manager, backup/restore tools, etc... > Any other tools that can be sugested, commented on, would be gratefull. > It seems to me that a common viral infection has crept into the FreeBSD users... You are not the only one thinking on the lines of adding X based system config/maintance utility program > This is not a promise but merely a 'see if it can be done' type of thing. > > FWIW. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Any comments or opinions in this message are my own and may or may not reflect > the comments or opinions of my present or previous employers. > > Jerry Kendall Border Network Technologies Inc. > System Software Engineer Tel +1-416-368-7157 ext 303 > jerry@border.com Fax +1-416-368-7178 > > > Sander