From owner-freebsd-security Thu Aug 29 7:30:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84BB437B400 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:30:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E42F843E75 for ; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 07:30:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfeustel@mindspring.com) Received: from 1cust36.tnt5.fort-wayne.in.da.uu.net ([65.238.146.36] helo=dafco6w9sb81bw) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17kQIj-00014a-00; Thu, 29 Aug 2002 10:29:37 -0400 Message-ID: <000a01c24f68$803cb350$2492ee41@dafco6w9sb81bw> From: "Dave Feustel" To: "Perry E. Metzger" , "Petr Swedock" Cc: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" , , "Matthias Buelow" , "Stefan Krüger" , , , References: <20020828200748.90964.qmail@mail.com> <3D6D3953.6090005@mukappabeta.de> <20020828224330.GE249@localhost> <87k7mamc2s.fsf@snark.piermont.com> <20020829091232.A53344@mail.webmonster.de> <87bs7ln66u.fsf@snark.piermont.com> <86hehdbvsb.fsf@blade-runner.mit.edu> Subject: Re: 1024 bit key considered insecure (sshd) Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:29:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org And this analysis doesn't even take into account remote viewing :-). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Petr Swedock" To: "Perry E. Metzger" Cc: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" ; ; "Matthias Buelow" ; "Stefan Krüger" ; ; ; Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:10 AM Subject: Re: 1024 bit key considered insecure (sshd) > "Perry E. Metzger" writes: > > > "Karsten W. Rohrbach" writes: > > > > I would have thought spending at least hundreds of millions off > > dollars and (as importantly) at least months of time would have been > > considered "unattractive" enough to encourage other methods of getting > > at your data like breaking in to your physical location. Silly me. I > > guess I missed the concept behind crypto. > > The concept behind crypto is to confuse, scramble and obfuscate. When > it was first designed for and employed in computers the existing > mathematical models, computer muscle and modes of analysis were > thought to assure unbreakability. Now the use has morphed into > a race condition where present mathematical models and future > computer muscle, coupled with existing modes of analysis are > thought to assure breakability. > > Peace, > > Petr > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message