From owner-freebsd-current Sat Nov 22 12:21:33 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA23807 for current-outgoing; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:21:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from d198-232.uoregon.edu (d198-232.uoregon.edu [128.223.198.232]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA23802 for ; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:21:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mini@d198-232.uoregon.edu) Received: (from mini@localhost) by d198-232.uoregon.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA07463; Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:17:34 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19971122121733.11532@micron.mini.net> Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:17:33 -0800 From: Jonathan Mini To: Bruce Evans Cc: evanc@synapse.net, j_mini@efn.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, mike@smith.net.au, phk@critter.freebsd.dk Subject: Re: Stripping the kernel Reply-To: Jonathan Mini References: <199711220250.NAA04800@godzilla.zeta.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199711220250.NAA04800@godzilla.zeta.org.au>; from Bruce Evans on Sat, Nov 22, 1997 at 01:50:28PM +1100 X-files: The Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Bruce Evans stands accused of saying: > >Evan, you are absolutely right. It is Bad and Evil to read things out of the > >kernel memory. I have hated it from the start. However, look at the uses of > >the kernel tompling, and come up with an effective efficient way to do the same > >things, and I will even write it for you. :) > > Don't forget that it has to work on a long-running kernel running > at securelevel 2 (where group kmem can read kmem but even root can't > add LKMs). Missing interfaces may develop over the years :-). I need this now, not 'years'. :) > > Bruce -- Jonathan Mini Ingenious Productions Software Development P.O. Box 5693, Eugene, Or. 97405 "A child of five could understand this! Quick -- Fetch me a child of five."