From owner-freebsd-riscv@freebsd.org Thu Nov 28 01:13:16 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-riscv@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506701BDBAB for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 01:13:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from jax4mhob25.registeredsite.com (jax4mhob25.registeredsite.com [64.69.218.113]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.registeredsite.com", Issuer "COMODO RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47NflZ71KQz3Lpj for ; Thu, 28 Nov 2019 01:13:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.77.36]) by jax4mhob25.registeredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id xAS1D6hC131495 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 20:13:07 -0500 Received: (qmail 7614 invoked by uid 0); 28 Nov 2019 01:13:06 -0000 X-TCPREMOTEIP: 99.253.169.68 X-Authenticated-UID: dclarke@blastwave.org Received: from unknown (HELO ?172.16.35.2?) (dclarke@blastwave.org@99.253.169.68) by 0 with ESMTPA; 28 Nov 2019 01:13:06 -0000 Subject: Re: [sw-dev] GCC 8.x or 9.x for FreeBSD rv64imafdc ?? To: Bruce Hoult Cc: Ruslan Bukin , RISC-V SW Dev , freebsd-riscv References: <5bca6745-1c09-3ba7-3b4a-2456ea2e1081@blastwave.org> <20191127135941.GA20804@bsdpad.com> <11917081-1ce7-182d-d6a8-3d88fd58b153@blastwave.org> From: Dennis Clarke Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 01:13:05 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:71.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/71.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47NflZ71KQz3Lpj X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dclarke@blastwave.org has no SPF policy when checking 64.69.218.113) smtp.mailfrom=dclarke@blastwave.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.16 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(0.37)[ipnet: 64.69.218.0/23(0.25), asn: 19871(1.66), country: US(-0.05)]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-riscv@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[blastwave.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.98)[0.977,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[113.218.69.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.10.0]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.91)[0.911,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:19871, ipnet:64.69.218.0/23, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-riscv@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD on the RISC-V instruction set architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2019 01:13:16 -0000 >> We just are not there and the money needed for a 9nm solution is $300M or so. > > No one except x86 systems based on CPUs from Intel and AMD has the > volume and supply chain maturity to be "there". No one. > Yep .. we all know this. So I am looking at about $4k to get a prototype hardware kit together and that would provide a pci bus. Such is life. Dennis