Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 00:19:19 -0500 From: Jon Radel <jon@radel.com> To: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: partly offtopic, but need feed back now. Message-ID: <4B4C0657.3010806@radel.com> In-Reply-To: <20100112043849.GA96088@thought.org> References: <20100112043849.GA96088@thought.org>
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[-- Attachment #1 --] Gary Kline wrote: > according to him, on each one copper circuit, there were two unused wires that > could be used for a second phone number. so that afternoon I had a dialup line > and the house had a voice line. Or more.... Each POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) line takes one copper pair. The wiring inside your house probably has two pairs, which can either be used for 2 lines or for 1 line plus power to light the dial of your Princess phone. If your wiring is of the right vintage you might even have the old transformer for providing the power dangling somewhere. The wiring up to your house probably has some even number of pairs. I think I have a 4-pair and a 6-pair at this point, though most are no longer used (I'm down to a single POTS and a single T1, way down from my high point). > > if I'm not mistaken, there are some Qwest people amongst this group. I would > like to know if what the telephone installer told me 14 years ago was true, and > also, if it is likely unchanged. > Well, pretty much unchanged other than that all the local exchange carriers that actually run copper wire to houses are eager to get out of that business to one extent or another. I don't follow this closely, but I think AT&T is the only one to have actually gone public with a request to the FCC to set a date when they can drop POTS lines forever. > > at any rate, within four hours, the cable company will take ownership of the > second voice line. I think it is just one physical circuit split in two by a > clever tech. Hmmmm....if you're doing the standard thing, and porting your phone number to the cable company, they'll have to put some equipment of their own on or in your house. They don't really take ownership of the "line", just the number. See if you can get the tech to make real sure that your two inside pairs are well isolated so maybe you can get rid of the problem of ring voltage leaking from one to the other. He'll probably just detach one of your inside pairs from Qwest and hook it up to his box, assuming he doesn't just wave his hands and tell you plug your phone in "here" and go away. -- --Jon Radel jon@radel.com [-- Attachment #2 --] 0 *H 01 0 + 0 *H 100\ ^ Xq0 *H 0b1 0 UZA1%0#U Thawte Consulting (Pty) Ltd.1,0*U#Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA0 090225041326Z 100225041326Z0^10 URadel10U* Jon Thomas10UJon Thomas Radel1 0 *H jon@radel.com0"0 *H 0 O箩js;:|+\&W4f McjDX&̡ 4g;}we62xrqF?6K#zjdf~pC.l5ծ>f%!T`O\BIe Gv $l\9BbkOBHnKl-q; MlL (ٕ ,OJ%g Cqb!?hض2 y *0(0U 0 jon@radel.com0 U 0 0 *H SWW ƳN&⼮i#E[%Ҟ';uT}|m}^yըO-ʧ}BY p#tc Su Bj8+G$bC4g/qi 77Stڄկ<`SNfT00\ ^ Xq0 *H 0b1 0 UZA1%0#U Thawte Consulting (Pty) Ltd.1,0*U#Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA0 090225041326Z 100225041326Z0^10 URadel10U* Jon Thomas10UJon Thomas Radel1 0 *H jon@radel.com0"0 *H 0 O箩js;:|+\&W4f McjDX&̡ 4g;}we62xrqF?6K#zjdf~pC.l5ծ>f%!T`O\BIe Gv $l\9BbkOBHnKl-q; MlL (ٕ ,OJ%g Cqb!?hض2 y *0(0U 0 jon@radel.com0 U 0 0 *H SWW ƳN&⼮i#E[%Ҟ';uT}|m}^yըO-ʧ}BY p#tc Su Bj8+G$bC4g/qi 77Stڄկ<`SNfT0?0 0 *H 01 0 UZA10U Western Cape10U Cape Town10U Thawte Consulting1(0&U Certification Services Division1$0"UThawte Personal Freemail CA1+0) *H personal-freemail@thawte.com0 030717000000Z 130716235959Z0b1 0 UZA1%0#U Thawte Consulting (Pty) Ltd.1,0*U#Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA00 *H 0 Ħ<UsUNʙZ hup [v :aQP 0cZ,p+Z?qV˯< 6$*+w=+>@dקe*TH<a@ dr` 00U 0 0CU <0:08642http://crl.thawte.com/ThawtePersonalFreemailCA.crl0 U 0)U "0 0 10UPrivateLabel2-1380 *H HP . fgCL!6 -6/ P p<ab:~ t%Pb'qW%ݩ9 Oe_N4[5MwV!x!5$ F]_eO1d0`0v0b1 0 UZA1%0#U Thawte Consulting (Pty) Ltd.1,0*U#Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA ^ Xq0 + 0 *H 1 *H 0 *H 1 100112051919Z0# *H 1*Fuj*mzܺޡ0R *H 1E0C0 *H 0*H 0 *H @0+0 *H (0 +71x0v0b1 0 UZA1%0#U Thawte Consulting (Pty) Ltd.1,0*U#Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA ^ Xq0 *H 1xv0b1 0 UZA1%0#U Thawte Consulting (Pty) Ltd.1,0*U#Thawte Personal Freemail Issuing CA ^ Xq0 *H q<\ f'`+4 Ǭ+Rü 謉ħeK o5' à=Bͷa3 bG': l.^jD+R*,CS+XqTuQezC;n c= N ݷC 0" ')714&-ԩ_$3]auc8Ge|,A.^9%1a-E/AuЛ tdX:` t298r]bc%
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