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Date:      Sat, 30 Sep 2000 16:04:32 +0200
From:      Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>
To:        Adam Laurie <adam@algroup.co.uk>
Cc:        security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/mail/pine4 Makefile (fwd)
Message-ID:  <20000930160432.A15451@mithrandr.moria.org>
In-Reply-To: <39D5A13C.8AF289BE@algroup.co.uk>; from adam@algroup.co.uk on Sat, Sep 30, 2000 at 09:15:56AM %2B0100
References:  <200009292349.TAA07263@giganda.komkon.org> <008b01c02a71$6b8938c0$d04379a5@p4f0i0> <20000929172644.C6456@freefall.freebsd.org> <39D5A13C.8AF289BE@algroup.co.uk>

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On Sat 2000-09-30 (09:15), Adam Laurie wrote:
> Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 08:00:17PM -0400, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote:
> > 
> > > If you remove a port because of it's security concerns, then your robbing
> > > the average user the choice between what mail client to use. Also, it's not
> > > the job of the FreeBSD development team/patch/security team to weed out all
> > > the insecure programs, the responsibility lies mainly on the systems
> > 
> > Yes it is. Allowing the user to install insecure software only leaves
> > them with a false sense of security and the feeling of betrayal when
> > they get exploited through it.
> 
> Surely the same applies to FreeBSD itself?
> 
> I find it very odd that ports get so much positive pressure from this
> list to restrict/fix/exclude them when there is a security issue, but
> try and get something done to core FreeBSD scripts/services etc., and
> you'll get shot down in flames... Bizarre...

Can you give examples?

Neil
-- 
Neil Blakey-Milner
Sunesi Clinical Systems
nbm@mithrandr.moria.org


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