From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 22 7:47:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from fbsd01.granitepost.com (fbsd01.granitepost.com [209.150.104.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B047F37B520 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 07:47:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clabrown@granitepost.com) Received: from thunder (thunder.granitepost.com [209.150.104.140]) by fbsd01.granitepost.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA24569 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 11:21:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Clarence Brown" To: Subject: RE: 3.4 to 4.0 upgrade w/ March 2000 CD's? Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 10:52:05 -0400 Message-ID: <001001bfc3fd$4c86ad20$8c6896d1@granitepost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <20000521230410.M96573@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Are there any 3.X to 4.0 upgrade instructions or tutorials > > for dummies? I really don't have a lot of time to figure > > everything out, but would like to start working with 4.0. > > Did any of the /etc configuration files or directories change > > from 3.4 to 4.0? I would bet they did. > > You can use the 'Upgrade' choice in sysinstall to add all of the new > binaries. Then, if you want to update /etc-type files, install the > source code from the CD and then run 'mergemaster.' It will walk you > through updating config files. > -- > Crist J. Clark cjclark@home.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > Thanks for the pointer Crist... I'm unclear on why I need to install the source code? All the code for 4.0? I read the man page for mergemaster on www.freebsd.org, and have once again confirmed that I have almost zero comprehension when reading man pages. There seem to be a few missing details I'd like to understand, before I start... In the upgrade process I'm supposed to specify a directory to preserve /etc into. How does this relate to mergemaster? Is this directory compared by or used as a source by mergemaster? If it is, how does mergemaster know where I put it? Do I use the -m directive to specify the directory I chose during the upgrade to save /etc into? If so, the upgrade says it saves /etc, but mergemaster builds a temporary root, shouldn't I save the whole root and not just the /etc subdirectory? I guess I shouldn't save /etc into /var/tmp/temproot which is where mergemaster is supposed to "build" it's temporary root? "Building a temporary root" sounds like it would overwrite anything that was already there. Do the merged files just end up back where they are supposed to be, or do they end up in /var/tmp/temproot, requiring me to copy them back to where they are supposed to be? How about a picture? Maybe something like ... Upgrade, preserver /etc into /var/tmp/etc mergemaster -m /var/tmp/etc 0. FreeBSD 3.4 1. upgrade to 4.0 FreeBSD 3.4 -> FreeBSD 4.0, old etc saved in /var/tmp/etc 2. install source code from 4.0 CD's ?? Huh? All the source? Can I somehow leave the source on the CD and point to it? 3. mergemaster -m /var/tmp/etc /etc + /var/tmp/etc ==> /var/tmp/temproot 4. put merged files back in root, or does mergemaster do that? cp /var/tmp/temproot/* /etc ??? this sure sound like a bad idea ;) With something as significant as a 3.x to 4.0 upgrade, it seems like someone would have written up a couple pages of instructions just to avoid answering questions from idiots like me :) I did find the following FAQ on the subject... Q: How do I upgrade from 3.X -> 4.X? A: We strongly recommend that you use binary snapshots to do this. 4.X-STABLE snapshots are available at releng4.FreeBSD.org. If you wish to upgrade using source, please see the FreeBSD Handbook for more information. Upgrading via source is never recommended for new users, and upgrading from 3.X -> 4.X is even less so; make sure you have read the instructions carefully before attempting to upgrade via source this! To summarize the FAQ, I should use the "strongly" recommended binary method, but the only instructions mentioned are for the dreaded source up grade! Boy, that was helpful. As usual, frustrated by my own ignorance ... Cla :( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message