From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 27 22:32:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1042D12B; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 22:32:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Devin.Teske@fisglobal.com) Received: from mx1.fisglobal.com (mx1.fisglobal.com [199.200.24.190]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D09412EEA; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 22:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.fisglobal.com ([10.132.206.17]) by ltcfislmsgpa04.fnfis.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id r8RMWCEM013627 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 27 Sep 2013 17:32:12 -0500 Received: from LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com ([169.254.1.202]) by LTCFISWMSGHT06.FNFIS.com ([10.132.206.17]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 17:32:11 -0500 From: "Teske, Devin" To: David Demelier Subject: Re: 9.2-PRE: switch off that stupid "Nakatomi Socrates" Thread-Topic: 9.2-PRE: switch off that stupid "Nakatomi Socrates" Thread-Index: AQHOu9Fo/8NXTSuq9021mqWuVE4/QA== Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 22:32:10 +0000 Message-ID: <13CA24D6AB415D428143D44749F57D720FC01C3B@LTCFISWMSGMB21.FNFIS.com> References: <20130921123125.309f30eb@thor.walstatt.dyndns.org> <523D7784.30002@FreeBSD.org> <5246014B.70908@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5246014B.70908@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.132.253.121] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <9240207F104297409AE5D51FF40CE0CB@fisglobal.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794, 1.0.431, 0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-27_09:2013-09-27,2013-09-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 Cc: Devin Teske , freebsd-stable stable X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Devin Teske List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 22:32:14 -0000 On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:06 PM, David Demelier wrote: > On 21.09.2013 12:40, Matthew Seaman wrote: >> On 21/09/2013 11:31, O. Hartmann wrote: >>> I'd like to switch off this silly "Nakatomi Socrates" message which >>> reminds me on Linux and their childish naming schemes. >>>=20 >>> It is only cosmetics, but it bothers me whenever I switch on the laptop. >>>=20 >>> I guess there is a switch already prsent to have in the bootloader >>> config? >>=20 >> It's turned off by default in more recent 9.2-STABLE >>=20 >> Otherwise: >>=20 >> loader_logo=3D"orb" >>=20 >> in /boot/loader.conf -- see loader.conf(5) >>=20 >> Cheers, >>=20 >> Matthew >>=20 >=20 > Hi, >=20 > I have loader_logo=3D"orb" and I still have a message at the right bottom > with that stupid joke. >=20 "Named Releases" is far from a joke. Maybe you'd like something a bit more boring like "9.2-RELEASE" The fact is... there is (and only ever will be) one iteration of FreeBSD 9.= 2. I assume that you have had no clue up until this point that there was yet another BSD 9.2. A fictitious version of BSD in a 1980's film, named... Nakatomi Socrates Yeah, we could have decided to let the opportunity pass; to show that we're the first BSD to ever hit 9.2 out of all the flavors, producing the first e= ver non-fictitious BSD 9.2... But where would the fun be in that? Rest assured... I've not seen *any* hollywood films with a number higher than 9.2... so our future looks pretty darn boring. The "name" for 10.0-RELEASE could very well be NULL or boring ol' 10.0-RELEASE But one thing is clear. There is a real tangible benefit to seeing the version on the boot screen. As we move to integrate BE's into the Forth boot screen, it may become paramount to know what version of loader(8) you're using. So please try not to be so judge-mental about these things. This is a real tangible improvement and simply because you've heard that those crazy people in Linux-land are naming their releases... That had zero bearing on why we did it. We may never name another release ever again. I personally would like to see loader(8) set the value to include an SVN re= vision so that everytime you rebuild loader(8), the version info updates; displayed prominently in the bottom right corner (which of course... you'll again be = free to override it if you don't like it... just as you are free to completely disa= ble the entire menu by adding beastie_disable=3DYES to loader.conf(8)). --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.