From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 5 16:07:09 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D27C106566B; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:07:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stacey@vickiandstacey.com) Received: from smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.3.140]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C598FC1A; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.68.31.182] (helo=unknown) by smarthost01.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NyopP-0002jx-Ao; Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:07:07 +0000 Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 17:08:18 +0100 From: S Roberts To: Masoom Shaikh , FreeBSD Mailing List , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20100405170818.00001dc7@unknown> In-Reply-To: References: <20100404000942.00003960@unknown> <20100404092227.GA2632@chimera.vickiandstacey.com> <20100405141513.00005c14@unknown> <20100405144336.00007ba5@unknown> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4cvs1 (GTK+ 2.16.0; i586-pc-mingw32msvc) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-Smarthost01-IP: [82.68.31.182] Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD-8 Dual Booting With Pre-Installed Windows 7? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:07:09 -0000 Hello Masoom, On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:56:39 +0530 Masoom Shaikh wrote: > On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:13 PM, S Roberts > wrote: > > Hello Masoom, > > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:54:12 +0530 > > Masoom Shaikh wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, S Roberts > >> wrote: > >> > Hi Masoom, > >> > =A0 Good to hear from you.., > >> > > >> > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:32:57 +0530 > >> > Masoom Shaikh wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Stacey Roberts > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > Hello Leslie, > >> >> > =A0 =A0 =A0Good to hear from you.., > >> >> > > >> >> > On Sun, 04 Apr 2010, Leslie Jensen wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/msg229= 158.html > >> >> >> > >> >> >> /Leslie > >> >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > I had a look at the thread - thanks.., > >> >> > > >> >> > The documentation for EasyBCD documentation itself states that > >> >> > its compatible with windows vista - there's nowhere that > >> >> > actually states that it supports windows 7. > >> >> > >> >> I have been using EasyBCD on Win7 + FBSD8 for some 6+ months now > >> >> > >> > > >> > That's great to hear.., Can you confirm that you started off > >> > with a pre-installed windows 7 machine / single disk and then > >> > **added** FreeBSD, please? > >> > >> Win7 was not pre-installed. I have three partitions, > >> part1(c:) - NTFS > >> part2(d:) - FAT32 > >> part3 - UFS2, not visible to Win7, visible in Disk Management > >> console as free space > >> > >> Win7 is installed on part1, part2 is data drive so that bot OSes > >> can read/write do not want to use fusefs > >> > >> first install Win7, then FreeBSD, then boot in Win7 and use > >> EasyBCD to add FreeBSD as another entry > >> remember to advise FreeBSD to not touch MBR. > >> > > > > Understood. So for your installation of FreeBSD, selecting "None > > Leave Master Boot Record untouched" actually did work - and you did > > **NOT** find that sysinstall still went ahead and messed with the > > mbr? > > > > Sorry for the questions, but I recall a recent thread where a few > > people confirmed that this option does not behave as expected, > > and folks ended up with broken windows mbrs. >=20 > yes, > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2010-April/056100.html > thread is actually correct, for me it is fresh install, in your case > it is little tricky to get it straight for a fresh install you can > install FreeBSD first then Win7, and then use EasyBSD. done. >=20 Wiping the machine as you suggest is not an option.=20 This is a new, windows 7 preinstalled machine that came with **NO** windows 7 install disks. > i guess, i have done that too. i.e. installed FreeBSD after Win7, then > used Win7 CD to repair > but take care, it can fail with that irritating send, don't send > dialog box >=20 I'd have like to have known this earlier.., I wasn't set to start until later this evening, so I guess its good to have found this out now. > so here is one trick if you got guts to try :). I recently got saved > with this trick >=20 > you have Win7 pre-installed, now free up some space and let FreeBSD > install, select the option "do not touch mbr". Next boot you will find > Win7 gone. Boot from Win7 CD and let it install at same location where > it is/was installed. Setup will warn you of already existing > installation. It might additionally say that it will move old > installation to "Windows.old" folder. Ignore this warning and let > setup continue. If I remember correctly the second option is > Extracting Windows Files(percentage). Let it come to second step and > execute it for a 5 mins, then cancel the setup, ignore all warning and > it will undo all changes, but by that time it will already have fixed > the bootloader problem. After you cancel setup, give it all time it > needs to undo, don't force reboot/power down. >=20 > hope this will enable you too install FreeBSD, a great development > environment have fun! >=20 As I said above, the machine did not come with windows 7 installation media included. W Block earlier referred to the sysinstall mbr issue as a "rare bug", but if you have yourself encountered this bug 6 months ago, then it would appear to have been broken for a long time. A search of PRs show; Mon, 26 Sep 2005 14:37:58 GMT: bin/86600: sysinstall(8): Sysinstall boot manager screen is misleading Tue, 26 Feb 2008 09:03:41 -0800 (PST): bin/121124: sysinstall(8): FreeBSD 6.3 installation deletes MBR partition Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:11:51 GMT: bin/129771: sysinstall(8): 7.1 RC1 sysinstalls installs boot0 even when told not to I've been managing FreeBSD servers for years now, so I guess this type of issue did slip through my attention gap - even so, going by the earliest date there, seems like this ball has been dropping for a long time :-/ Thanks for the suggestions, Masoom. Regards, S Roberts > > > > Thanks again, Masoom. > > > > Regards, > > > > S Roberts > > > >> have fun!! > >> > >> > > >> > Tell me something - Which of the 3 FreeBSD boot manager options > >> > did you select, please? > >> > >> don't let FreeBSD touch your MBR, Win7 won't like that > >> > >> > > >> > Thanks! > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > > >> > S Roberts > >> > > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Or, am I missing something? > >> >> > > >> >> > I noted that the link by the responder in the thread also > >> >> > refers to a document that is based on windows vista, but will > >> >> > review this as well. > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks! > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards, > >> >> > > >> >> > S Roberts > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Hello, > >> >> >> > Sorry if this has been asked before, but can some point me > >> >> >> > to where I can find info on installing FreeBSD-8 to a > >> >> >> > windows-7 pre-installed machine (single disk) in a > >> >> >> > dual-boot set up, please? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Any assistance is appreciated. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Thanks. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Regards, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > S Roberts > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> >> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> >> >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ > >> >> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> >> > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"