From owner-freebsd-advocacy Thu Mar 1 23:52: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1376B37B718; Thu, 1 Mar 2001 23:51:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Received: by vnode.vmunix.com (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 1DA1DE; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:51:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vnode.vmunix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F8949A13; Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:51:58 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:51:58 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Coleman To: Dan Langille Cc: Dag-Erling Smorgrav , chat@FreeBSD.ORG, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: spam from BSDSearch.com (was Re: Daemon News Ezine, March 2001 (not spam!)) In-Reply-To: <200103011941.f21JfK605410@ns1.unixathome.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Funny. BSDSearch claims to be sponsored by Daemon News. > > > Ugh. No, they're not. Why would DN sponsor something to compete with > > > search.daemonnews.org? For the same reason we sponsor FreeBSDZine and FreeBSDDiary, although they directly compete with us. We also have had ads on O'Reillynet.com/bsd and bsdfreak.org All of these are ad or link exchanges, a show of support and community building. We try to support other BSD activities, even commercial ones like Wasabi and such. Occasionally, DN supporters will pull cash out of their own pockets and promote DN on different sites if it isn't too much. At DN, its the community that powers us. I won't speak for DN officially in this matter, but I think they would all agree that we seek to promote anyone adding value to the BSD community. For BSD to succeed we all need to pull together. We don't condone SPAM, but we realize everyone makes mistakes. I have personally made too many to count, and been flamed viciously for it, but I am committed to the BSD community and really want to see it grow. Garry has promised that this won't happen again and I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt this time. I don't think we should let this destroy part of our community. This is what almost drove TuCows down. It would appear that to be proactive in the BSD community, the lower regions of your anatomy need to be partially composed of asbestos. I have been at this a long time, and all of my projects have been criticized as being too ambitious. I met with a lot of failure in the beginning, but perseverence led to Daemon News and is currently showing progress on Open Packages. If the SPAM were to continue, our attitude would change. Lets be forgiving at this juncture. -Chris Coleman (Expressing his own opinions) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message