From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 30 09:29:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABD6106564A for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:29:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) Received: from smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (smtp6.infracaninophile.co.uk [IPv6:2001:8b0:151:1:3cd3:cd67:fafa:3d78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E7E8FC1D for ; Wed, 30 May 2012 09:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from seedling.black-earth.co.uk (seedling.black-earth.co.uk [81.187.76.163]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4U9TOA2064548 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 May 2012 10:29:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from matthew@FreeBSD.org) X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.5.2 smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk q4U9TOA2064548 Authentication-Results: smtp.infracaninophile.co.uk/q4U9TOA2064548; dkim=none (no signature); dkim-adsp=none Message-ID: <4FC5E86E.1030503@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 10:29:18 +0100 From: Matthew Seaman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Mueller References: <77.8B.13930.453E5CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> In-Reply-To: <77.8B.13930.453E5CF4@smtp02.insight.synacor.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig61ADDCA33C33019A6B35D7D1" X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.4 at lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on lucid-nonsense.infracaninophile.co.uk Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Address to reach human operator regarding problems with list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 09:29:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig61ADDCA33C33019A6B35D7D1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30/05/2012 10:07, Thomas Mueller wrote: > When a list member has problems with the list that require contacting > a human list owner/operator, what is the address to send to? >=20 > I received a probe message regarding messages to me that bounced, > might have been spams that slipped by the list's filters. >=20 > I was advised in the message that the address was > freebsd-questions-owner@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-owner@... is correct, except that to my knowledge there isn't really a moderator for freebsd-questions (it's an open list that anyone can post to without having to be a member) and that address ultimately gets dealt with by postmaster@freebsd.org. The message you got about "held for moderation" is standard boiler-plate from mailman, and probably not appropriate for your specific circumstance= s. On the whole though, you shouldn't need to contact anyone about the warning you received. It generally occurs when your mail system rejects messages from the freebsd-questions@... list as spam. As there is a certain amount of spam that does appear on the list, this is an absolutely legitimate practice: trouble is, it's hard for the FreeBSD mail system to distinguish deliberate non-acceptance of spam from accidental non-acceptance of traffic due to a broken mailer. Mailman has an adaptive system that scores you based on how many rejects you generate in a certain time period. If you log into mailman at eg. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions you can see your current score. Mine is currently 2.0 (out of 5.0) and has been about that for quite some time. So long as your score is not too large, I wouldn't worry about the message you received. Even if your score does go over the threshold, you can just use that same interface to re-enable delivery. Cheers, Matthew --=20 Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey --------------enig61ADDCA33C33019A6B35D7D1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.16 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk/F6HQACgkQ8Mjk52CukIysQQCfflblllf0lC3FiKlPOjnmM/iY WOwAn2d08QoFs0mBb2+qtmQz7V6DUo4Y =3qeI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enig61ADDCA33C33019A6B35D7D1--