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[76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c10sm5989129yhj.2.2011.11.17.05.38.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 17 Nov 2011 05:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@scorpio.seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3Skk7Z13WYz2CG5m for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:38:50 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.97.3 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:38:49 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD Message-ID: <20111117083849.288fa033@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20111117080004.00000179@unknown> References: <201111161924.54727.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117070532.1c7c9350@scorpio> <201111170928.57489.lobo@bsd.com.br> <20111117075502.74f9dbd2@scorpio> <20111117080004.00000179@unknown> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.2) Face: 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 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [OT] but concerns all of us X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:38:56 -0000 On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:00:04 -0500 Rod Person articulated: > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:55:02 -0500 > Jerry wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 09:28:57 -0300 > > Mario Lobo articulated: > > > > > Aren't there enough laws already to protect copyright? > > > > Laws to protect copyrighted or patented goods certainly exist. > > Unfortunately, they are poorly enforced. There is no universal > > "standard" for copyright infringement, etcetera. The best way to > > protect copyrighted material is stopping its pilferage at the > > source; ie, making every entity in the chain of its illegal usage > > responsible. > > > > Theft is theft no matter how a socialist/fascist tries to color it. > > > > So what you are saying then is that there should be roadblocks on ever > street to make sure that all cars and drivers have proper > documentation to make sure car theft does not occur? Well, now we are into the "car" analogy which really doesn't scale well for this discussion. However, lets visit this concept. It is already required in the US and I would assume many other countries that a vehicle must process the proper tags and documentation to be operated on a public street. The operator of said vehicle must also process proper documentation that he/she is legally allowed to operate said vehicle. Neither of these two requirements is a handicap to the honest individual. Many states, including New York State now equip their police vehicles with devices that can scan the tags on vehicles as they are traveling and can ascertain whether the vehicle is properly insured and registered to be operated on the highway. This non intrusive method of law enforcement has resulted in hundreds of illegal vehicles being removed from the highway. At present, I know of no method to determine the legality of the driver without the police officer physically checking the drivers identification. It has been proposed that such devices be installed at regular intervals along federal highways in the US. As usual, the regular scumbags have instigated legal action to stall the use of such a system on a pseudo "invasion of privacy" concept. In essence, the only privacy that would be invaded would be those of the user of said illegally operated vehicle. So to answer you question, yes I believe in strict enforcement of laws and regulations. Only a felon has a reason to fear such enforcement. A non intrusive method of enforcement of said laws is a bonus. Only those who break laws have a reason to fear them.