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Date:      Mon, 16 Dec 2002 12:31:06 -0600
From:      "Joe Gwozdecki" <joegw@hal-pc.org>
To:        "Jud" <judmarc@fastmail.fm>, "Cliff Sarginson" <cls@raggedclown.net>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Dual booting FreeBSD 4.7 and Windows XP
Message-ID:  <027701c2a531$4d1b23c0$0300000a@lyon>
References:  <003001c2a503$fc39b340$1a00a8c0@HOME> <20021216151817.GA599@raggedclown.net> <20021216174520.67C1E3AE3@server2.fastmail.fm>

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Instead of going through a lot of quirky Windows headaches and fixes, you can get a second
computer and divide the OSs on them.  Second hand computers with monitors go for $150,
complete.  If you have been in computers for a while, you probably have a lot of old
cards, etc. just lying around.  You will save yourself a lot of time.  That is probably
worth more than the $150, right there.

Joe Gwozdecki
Houston, Texas






----- Original Message -----
From: "Jud" <judmarc@fastmail.fm>
To: "Cliff Sarginson" <cls@raggedclown.net>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: Dual booting FreeBSD 4.7 and Windows XP


> On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 16:18:17 +0100, "Cliff Sarginson"
> <cls@raggedclown.net> said:
> > On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 05:06:44AM -0800, Mike McGranahan wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I would like to know what is the best way to dual boot FreeBSD 4.7 and
> > > Windows XP?  I found this information (
> > > http://www.geocrawler.com/mail/msg.php3?msg_id=7963936&list=151 ) regarding
> > > how to use the Windows XP loader, and this information on GRUB (
> > > http://www.gnu.org/manual/grub/html_node/Booting.html#Booting ) though there
> > > is no mention of Windows XP.
> > >
> > Grub works fine with FreeBSD and Windows XP. One of my machines does this
> > very thing. I recommend Grub for it's ease of use, although you have to
> > get it very clear in your mind how it defines disk names.
> > Adter that it is a doddle, and even if you make a mistake you can
> > dynamically edit the boot configuration :)..i.e. edit the boot entries
> > while you are in the boot meny itself.
> >
> > Generally speaking Msoft has no respect for the existance of other OS'es
> > so it should be installed first, otherwise it may zap your MBR created
> > by Grub.
> >
> > Remember that Windows only really likes to be booted off of the first
> > hard disk, but there is a little trick with Grub (and I gues with my
> > most bootloaders) that fools it into thinking that even if it is on the
> > second disk it is told it is on the first. This is explained in the
> > manual for grub. The latter is in the appalling GNU Info format, so you
> > might find it easier to convert it to html, there is a port to do this.
>
> The manual is also available in HTML format online at
> http://www.gnu.org/manual/grub-0.92/grub.html .
>
> [snip]
> > > Are there any online documents that address this, or would be insightful?
> > >
> > The Grub manual is not very good...unfortunately. I don't know if there
> > is an HOWTO anywhere.
> >
> > I can send you some example menu entries from my own setup if you wish.
> > To re-iterate you must understand not only the syntax of grub disk
> > definitions, but also how it numbers them. The rest is a doddle.
>
> I actually think the manual is pretty good (maybe it's just having tried
> to get around it using the 'gnu info' format, Cliff?:).  Be very sure to
> read through it and to understand the installation and configuration
> sections *thoroughly*.  The consequence of screwing up could be an
> unbootable machine, not unrecoverable but distressing.  The boot menu
> examples are also very helpful.
>
> Other perhaps more automagic alternatives:  (1) Install the FreeBSD
> bootloader.  Works fine, but your XP will show up in the boot menu as
> "???".  (2) Use the XP bootloader.  There's an FAQ about this at the
> FreeBSD web site (I think it's called the NT bootloader in the FAQ),
> which may be identical to what you found at Geocrawler.
>
> Jud
>
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