From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jul 6 20:29: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (dhcp97.lemis.com [192.109.197.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD42637B406 for ; Fri, 6 Jul 2001 20:28:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.11.3/8.9.3) id f66KVLB01488; Sat, 7 Jul 2001 06:31:21 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2001 06:31:21 +1000 From: Greg Lehey To: "Thomas M. Sommers" Cc: freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: GNU/FreeBSD (was: BSD, .Net comments - any reponse to this reasoning?) Message-ID: <20010707063121.E1368@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <20010630174743.A85268@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010630173455.T344@teleport.com> <20010701032900.A93049@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010701132353.W344@teleport.com> <20010702152649.A18127@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010702180222.A2667@hades.hell.gr> <3B412280.ED210541@mail.ptd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B412280.ED210541@mail.ptd.net>; from tms2@mail.ptd.net on Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 09:40:16PM -0400 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 2 July 2001 at 21:40:16 -0400, Thomas M. Sommers wrote: > Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >> >>> So what you are saying, then, is that 'Free Software' in the FSF definition >>> is not just GPL'ed, but also has the copyright signed over to the FSF so >>> they can 'insure' that the code will remain forever GPL'ed? If so, that is >>> damn scary. >> >> Yup. Thats the idea. See what Stallman has said for XEmacs >> [ quote taken from XEmacs site, URL: >> http://www.xemacs.org/About/XEmacsVsGNUemacs.html ] >> >> The FSF Point of View >> >> Richard Stallman writes: >> >> XEmacs is GNU software because it's a modified version of a >> GNU program. And it is GNU software because the FSF is the >> copyright holder for most of it, and therefore the legal >> responsibility for protecting its free status falls on us >> whether we want it or not. This is why the term "GNU XEmacs" >> is legitimate. >> > > There seems to be a hidden clause in the GPL, that requires anyone who > incorporates any GNU code in their program, or uses any GNU code to > build their program, or ships any GNU code with their program, to call > their program "GNU ". How long before Stallman > starts talking about "GNU FreeBSD"? He's done that. But he was talking about a BSD which would have almost only GNU userland. People keep talking about a Debian GNU/FreeBSD, for example. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message