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Date:      Sun, 20 Mar 2011 18:34:52 -1000 (HST)
From:      Jeff Roberson <jroberson@jroberson.net>
To:        Kirk McKusick <mckusick@mckusick.com>
Cc:        Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>, kvedulv@kvedulv.de, Jeff Roberson <jeff@FreeBSD.org>, Gavin Atkinson <gavin@FreeBSD.org>, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@FreeBSD.org>, src-committers@FreeBSD.org, Marius Strobl <marius@alchemy.franken.de>, svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org, svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r219667 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/partedit 
Message-ID:  <alpine.BSF.2.00.1103201831270.1480@desktop>
In-Reply-To: <201103210342.p2L3gWM9057768@chez.mckusick.com>
References:  <201103210342.p2L3gWM9057768@chez.mckusick.com>

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Kirk McKusick wrote:

>> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:25:20 -0700
>> From: Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>
>> To: Marius Strobl <marius@alchemy.franken.de>
>> CC: Kirk McKusick <mckusick@mckusick.com>,
>>         Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@FreeBSD.org>, svn-src-head@FreeBSD.org,
>>         Jeff Roberson <jeff@FreeBSD.org>, Gavin Atkinson <gavin@FreeBSD.org>,
>>         svn-src-all@FreeBSD.org, src-committers@FreeBSD.org,
>>         kvedulv@kvedulv.de
>> Subject: Re: svn commit: r219667 - head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/partedit
>>
>> On 03/20/2011 09:22, Marius Strobl wrote:
>>
>>> I fear it's still a bit premature for enable SU+J by default. Rather
>>> recently I was told about a SU+J filesystems lost after a panic
>>> that happend after snapshotting it (report CC'ed, maybe he can
>>> provide some more details) and I'm pretty sure I've seen the problem
>>> described in PR 149022 also after the potential fix mentioned in its
>>> feedback.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> I tried enabling SU+J on my /var (after backing up of course) and after
>> a panic random files were missing entirely. Not the last updates to
>> those files, the whole file, and many of them had not been written to in
>> days/weeks/months.
>>
>> With all due respect to the hard work that went into the code, I would
>> be very uncomfortable with enabling it by default at this point.
>>
>>
>> Doug
>
> With all due respect, how can we fix things that nobody reports?
> If you have a problem, let us know about it. And of course, we
> need something more specific than the above.

I have not been following current but I read any emails sent directly to 
me without a mailing list in the cc.  I also was not aware of this.  I had 
not heard of any filesystem corruption problems at all.  If there are any, 
I also am not comfortable with enabling it by default.  I want to fix that 
first.

I have blocked off next week to work on this.  I already sent an email out 
to current@ requesting bug reports.  Please if you have anything else let 
me know immediately so I can prioritize it and start investigating.

Thanks,
Jeff


>
> 	Kirk McKusick
>



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