From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 5 12:51:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8581A16A4FC for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:51:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from cydem.org (S0106000103ce4c9c.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.27.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F2D43D41 for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:50:57 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.org) Received: from freen0de (unknown [192.168.0.250]) by cydem.org (Postfix/FreeBSD) with ESMTP id CBC5390F9E for ; Tue, 5 Dec 2006 04:51:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 04:51:08 -0800 From: To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061205045108.6b3d8633@freen0de> In-Reply-To: <200612041443.15154.josh@tcbug.org> References: <200612041443.15154.josh@tcbug.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.2 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Venting my frustration with FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 12:51:46 -0000 On Mon, 4 Dec 2006 14:43:15 -0600 Josh Paetzel wrote: > days I'm not so sure. Is FBSD targetted at network servers, at > desktops, at embedded devices? don't know about the official target, but it does make a good workstation (or used to, before came pthreads and gnome, and maybe KDE: now tracking down crashes, bugs, compile errors, sudden breakage of things, never ending instability -- all this wastes huge amounts of time. Huge.) > What architectures do we target? > Looking at the website I see alpha, amd64, ARM, i386, ia64, MIPS, > pc98, ppc, sparc64, sun4v, and xbox. I know this is a volunteer > project, I know you really can't keep people from tinkering with what > they want to tinker with, but xbox? It seems to me to be a waste of > resources to concentrate on anything besides i386/AMD64..... perfectly normal and acceptable (and, IMHO, welcome) directions. Just like you, everyone (I suppose) wants to be able to run their favourite OS on the available hardware (every hw has its pros&cons, too) > surprised if sparc went away) ARM isn't going away, but is FreeBSD > really concerned with the embedded market? of course! (e.g., m0n0wall) can you suggest a better OS for this purpose? -- [SorAlx] ridin' VN1500-B2