From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Apr 18 19:19: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from netbank.com.br (garrincha.netbank.com.br [200.203.199.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891D137B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:18:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from riel@conectiva.com.br) Received: from surriel.ddts.net (1-193.cwb-adsl.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.193.160.193]) by netbank.com.br (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30BC4681A; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:19:57 -0300 (BRST) Received: from localhost (svhtlr@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by surriel.ddts.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3J2H6402562; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:17:16 -0300 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 23:17:06 -0300 (BRST) From: Rik van Riel X-Sender: riel@imladris.rielhome.conectiva To: Dennis Cc: Alfred Perlstein , Kris Kennaway , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP in 2.4 (fwd) In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010418190439.03633920@mail.etinc.com> Message-ID: X-spambait: aardvark@kernelnewbies.org X-spammeplease: aardvark@nl.linux.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Dennis wrote: > >You think Intel isn't going to market dual/quad ia64 machines? > > Yes, but who'll need them? If nobody needed them, what would be the point in SELLING them ? I know you don't trust our technical instinct, but you might at least consider the business instinct of companies like Intel, IBM or Unisys (who all sell big SMP systems). Besides, there are LOTS of people who need tomorrow's performance yesterday. There will always be a big market for overpowered, overpriced SMP systems... And as for the "but you can wait 2 years until UP is faster than today's SMP" doesn't quite work for eg. investment banking and stock funds. More computing power means better calculations, which means more money. And for folks like them, computing power is not measured in FLOPS, but in ACRES. And when you're talking 3 acres of computing power, you'd better have some decend density (ie. SMP in 2U rackmounted boxes, or something similarly suitable). regards, Rik -- Virtual memory is like a game you can't win; However, without VM there's truly nothing to lose... http://www.surriel.com/ http://www.conectiva.com/ http://distro.conectiva.com.br/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message