From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 23 00:31:14 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8CC81065696; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:31:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from mailgw.es.net (mail1.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:201:1::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39018FC1A; Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:31:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [IPv6:2001:400:910::29]) by mailgw.es.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oAN0VD96012364 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:31:14 -0800 Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id D75F21CC0C; Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:31:13 -0800 (PST) To: Ivan Voras In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 23 Nov 2010 01:21:33 +0100." Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:31:13 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20101123003113.D75F21CC0C@ptavv.es.net> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A big-ish machine, cannot boot X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:31:14 -0000 > From: Ivan Voras > Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 01:21:33 +0100 > Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > On 11/22/10 13:56, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Friday, November 19, 2010 1:20:53 pm Jung-uk Kim wrote: > > >> I bet these are "legacy free" machines, right? I recently noticed > >> that recent Intel chipsets cause incredibly long delays when > >> non-existent ISA ports are accessed, most notably AT keyboard ports. > >> (My gut tells me it is going in and out of SMM repeatedly for > >> nothing.) Back in the old days, when we had real ISA bus, it used to > >> delay very short and fixed amount time. Those days, this behaviour > >> was even (ab)used as a delay function where a real timer is not > >> available yet. ;-) > >> > >> Try getting rid of all unnecessary device drivers from your kernel > >> configuration. > > Well, there are no ISA devices in the AMD64 GENERIC that I can see... That's because you can't see it! % cat /sys/amd64/conf/DEFAULTS # # DEFAULTS -- Default kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64 # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/amd64/conf/DEFAULTS,v 1.19.2.3.2.1 2010/06/14 02:09:06 kensmith Exp $ machine amd64 # Bus support. device isa # Pseudo devices. device mem # Memory and kernel memory devices device io # I/O device # UART chips on this platform device uart_ns8250 # Default partitioning schemes options GEOM_PART_BSD options GEOM_PART_EBR options GEOM_PART_EBR_COMPAT options GEOM_PART_MBR And, in GENERIC: # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc # AT keyboard controller device atkbd # AT keyboard device psm # PS/2 mouse -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751