From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jan 19 05:15:28 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2209CB5C07 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 05:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4F3D11CF for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 05:15:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id v0J5FPHn089962 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:15:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id v0J5FPqt089959; Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:15:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:15:25 -0700 (MST) From: Warren Block To: Sergei Akhmatdinov cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Second attempt at FreeBSD-11.0-RELEASE-i386, Xorg, and Xfce graphical desktop In-Reply-To: <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> Message-ID: References: <18a5de5c-bc3a-c2e8-32c1-ea0a12d446ac@holgerdanske.com> <20170116230336.2cc22d94@riseup.net> <45c5ea44-e0b4-2698-da8e-707c507eb086@holgerdanske.com> <20170118031855.48fbbe2c@riseup.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (BSF 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.1 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:15:25 -0700 (MST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 05:15:28 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2017, Sergei Akhmatdinov wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 23:30:55 -0700 (MST) > Warren Block wrote: >> I do not know but suspect the font section is obsolete. However, I have >> not investigated that. > > Only half obsolete. Loading "freetype" is no longer needed, but most font > packages do not properly copy into Xorg's default font-paths, so you still need > to point to them. That, or manually copy the files over, which is what I do. I > find that a bit less fussy than adding a .conf and having to add a > font-path every time I install a new font from ports. > >>>> Do you have both hald and dbus running? >> >> Only dbus is required for xfce. Although the packages might require >> hal, don't know. > > I have XFCE set up on my FBSD desktop, couldn't get it to show up > restart-shutdown-etc without HAL running. I've been using xfce without hal ever since submitting the patches to change the ports to not need it. :) But I build everything from ports, and that packages might require hal. > Not sure why XFCE needs so much work over what is essentially a `shutdown > (-r|-p) now` wrapper. I just add those entries to the polkit file and it works. If there is something else that needs to be done, I did it a long time ago, but I'm pretty sure I have set up machines from scratch with the same configuration.