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Neal" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dead slow update servers In-Reply-To: (Clay Daniels, Jr.'s message of "Fri, 12 Jul 2019 19:53:51 -0500") Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 05:39:51 +0200 Message-ID: <874l3qfvqw.fsf@toy.adminart.net> References: <87sgrbi3qg.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190712171910.GA25091@neutralgood.org> <871ryuj3ex.fsf@toy.adminart.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6219C6B0E4 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=adminart.net header.s=strato-dkim-0002 header.b=Rc6vcreG X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.17 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[adminart.net:s=strato-dkim-0002]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[adminart.net]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: smtpin.rzone.de]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[adminart.net:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.33)[-0.329,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.5.2.0.2.0.a.0.2.0.8.3.2.0.1.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6724, ipnet:2a01:238::/32, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; IP_SCORE(-0.74)[ipnet: 2a01:238::/32(-3.27), asn: 6724(-0.40), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 03:43:05 -0000 "Clay Daniels Jr." writes: > TrueOS is downstream to FreeBSD. If you want to go that route that's fine, > but I'm willing to take the little warts on the top dog in BSD, FreeBSD. When it takes ages to install a package or to do an update, there is a serious problem because my time is limited. Time knows no mercy. Other than that, I prefer FreeBSD because it feels better to go with the original --- and now I learned that TrueOS forces you to use ZFS rather than giving you choices when installing, and apparently (I can't really tell yet) it uses more memory. ZFS is great when you have JBODs while storage performance is irrelevant. I do not have JBODs, and in almost all cases, storage performance is relevant. > [...] > downstream to FreeBSD. Who else has all the documentation. the variety of > packages, etc. Nobody else in the BSD space. So far, I'm delighted to see that there are so many packages, and it seems the documentation is at least still as good as it generally used to be 25 years ago. That makes it like feeling more at home than with current Linux distributions. I should have tried FreeBSD decades ago ... Unfortunately, by what the documentation says, virtualization seems to be a weak spot?