From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Aug 14 17:56:07 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2CCCB428C for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 17:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 467y1f6dL3z4fSm for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 17:56:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1565805367; x=1568397367; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=8RPRuTiGe+Tcz7gTqK8LR9idtV++lb4U3gNoaJm2mYM=; b=gWFNhaT/Plv+FqnT1nwNrTXbZ0Wnqlk60kBY4dwBbStkIibAzgQcCItBEXrwrtJ4v3fbDqnwbqGlabDCVuViRaYGDZ5/vRenxOVNhgJF7BoD4YcJx7WgU63GtgCn+P9A+lpeoc/fUYk01gckdK8xtRaComEQzNa1PkjLTFAb9N0= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xYjkwMDAwMDAwNTVlZmEuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [54.86.145.87]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 14 Aug 2019 13:55:57 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Wed, 14 Aug 2019 13:55:56 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1hxxV5-000Dyj-Cr for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 14 Aug 2019 18:55:55 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 18:55:55 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: possibly silly question regarding freebsd-update Message-Id: <20190814185555.d3c531487f3c3b41a9b817b5@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20190814165909.GA49486@neutralgood.org> References: <20190814145940.GE73009@bastion.zyxst.net> <20190814165909.GA49486@neutralgood.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 467y1f6dL3z4fSm X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=gWFNhaT/; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.07 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; IP_SCORE(-0.19)[ip: (-0.51), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.22), asn: 7381(-0.16), country: US(-0.05)]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.88)[-0.881,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 17:56:07 -0000 On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 12:59:09 -0400 "Kevin P. Neal" wrote: > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 03:59:40PM +0100, tech-lists wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've used freebsd for a long while but freebsd-update only relatively > > recently. I have always rebooted the server after freebsd-update > > install. > > > > I was wondering - is rebooting a requirement? > > You can't have a userland newer than the kernel or things will tend to > fall over. So the kernel is installed first, reboot, and then userland is > updated. Yes for an upgrade to a newer release but not for an update to the latest patch level, there old kernel should support the userland just fine (modulo bugs) and so a reboot is only needed if there is a new kernel. > So, yes, I'd go ahead and reboot after finishing the install. And there's > nothing freebsd-update specific about that advice. That is indeed the simplest and safest way to ensure that everything that needs to be restarted is, but not the only way. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith