From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Apr 4 14:33:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web1.nidhog.com (web1.nidhog.com [192.204.160.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DB637B722 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:33:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chosey@web1.nidhog.com) Received: from localhost (chosey@localhost) by web1.nidhog.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f34LXlF49426; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:33:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chosey@web1.nidhog.com) X-Authentication-Warning: web1.nidhog.com: chosey owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:33:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Chet Hosey To: Brian Cc: Subject: Re: Chasing the kiddies (still) (was: Named Keep crashing) In-Reply-To: <005001c0bd4e$8ee7f980$0201a8c0@fear.wrath.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Received: by mailman.thenap.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:17:35 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Drew J. Weaver" I _thought_ something was amiss . . . anyone know of any UNIX-based MTAs which call themselves "Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21)"? How about Windows-based ones? :) ________________________________________________________________________ Chet Hosey ________________________________________________________________________ On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Brian wrote: > RE: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing) > HTML sucks > > > Hey, that's a great idea. But how are you going to tell them about that > service? Security via obscurity? Yeah, that's like leaving your family > photo album open on your desk and expecting no one to look at them because > you didn't tell the people that the pictures were on your desk. > > As far as I'm concerned, a machine on the _internet_ is fair game. By being > fair, I ask that someone can look. They can look, but by no means can they > try to breach security. Otherwise, why the hell are you on the internet? > > I have a funny feeling you use Windows, and as a 32bit Windows advocate I'm > beginning to wonder. I have another feeling that I now know why Windows > gets a bad rap. If you do use Windows, I suggest you go hunting through > Microsoft's pages and ntsecurity.net. > > > One of my friends once said that you should be sanctioned bandwidth by the > amount of intelligence you have. In other words, stupid people sit on 56k > modems. I take it one step further, people who can't secure their machines > shouldn't be given static IP addresses. In other words, if you've got an > NT4 machine and still sit on Service Pack 3, you should be banned to DHCP > with no lease for the rest of your life. > > -Brian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Drew J. Weaver > To: 'Robert Hough' ; FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:17 PM > Subject: RE: Chasing the kiddies (was: Named Keep crashing) > > Because if I wanted you using a service on one of my boxes you'd know about > it already, and wouldn't need to port scan my servers. > -Drew > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message