From owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Mon Feb 18 11:06:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B1AC14D5DD7; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 11:06:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sblachmann@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ot1-x343.google.com (mail-ot1-x343.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::343]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E7D8F892F0; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 11:06:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sblachmann@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ot1-x343.google.com with SMTP id t7so11190365otk.8; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 03:06:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=VgxtP391TkPCX2RNWhaP4svRw/lv0CBul2yjyLNR+dY=; b=G8ukcHSy4xEplwFzfzDh0H9DOySr6bl7sb9bZFTkaAnkCbv2pOghL0IUG0XZ5SdRBu p3xNLAaTCTT/1i3xBJO+dSB7VqO3SdaDIjs9jGVid3EcZ4clYzxtUPC/EmV4ffB2i+UY WzOJ2IsHJ905usJEGSf1lL+4wOateQZX5S7gOwzWRdLpUGghFvxjHk2wyyyijCJQlSLc aIpucMFlmAZpJWefLfaFO1pSAjjm/uomkCvWV0ESnjo1voc0yFl6sVRjFnkY7/W1P/uY 6dWddekDU/VzNHUFG+VDUrWWsS35dyu2+xU7BNVhLo4WeKwW3XjtWgTNY/7xRe/L5Mn8 GWqQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=VgxtP391TkPCX2RNWhaP4svRw/lv0CBul2yjyLNR+dY=; b=RG6o+AkQYyPbP1+SH7GB1bkvTkNrbnfMufx0xwLwaUcSFLMHr5R6flUXn69GmoTgFY zHYjVcjBNoRrh1RQtHReRLZRh2MSQne/sGcroJCxCt4XKxCNWOgRGlo9kVMRIayEFtNB GI4p0UJ6mR7SzBlhjrBHwIxBB7TU+WLglv3cNGJFqADDUbeT1cnJzplGSaMef7ZOtmMe a3lS6m+7FfXUkUgxSFwFg+XGKbU1zq499jE8IqqiAjHapXOO5r7L1SpLyvmxK/lweZMc y0TUwhSuHMbDTYR7XUR66MPqWZIDMKJ9Ew4kRpya2G0bkR5fqLQjd2mrI9FCvWOtpOTb wg+g== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuZwG6B59RKCc0EkE2u5fGOr6H3RRv9ELb0X3MlMRlzWNwlUnz7Z jslpQDjrX76ANgrebPe8ksjg2RFSfKD1oCFTVdQW2w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IakAUYnOoHdt8bG1N+S3gowfiibCmnZY4TkdFmCpOFOOn/NGZPlQK8j8C0c/XbZ3QRTN65yTQ+TMwWpzGf1q8A= X-Received: by 2002:a9d:6189:: with SMTP id g9mr13144696otk.311.1550487996317; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 03:06:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ac9:3044:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2019 03:06:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <71aa0ee09292b0e8648e385de33c455f@kondratyev.su> References: <20190217180323.GA95686@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <71aa0ee09292b0e8648e385de33c455f@kondratyev.su> From: Stefan Blachmann Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 12:06:35 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: What is evdev and autoloading? To: Vladimir Kondratyev Cc: sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E7D8F892F0 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=G8ukcHSy; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of sblachmann@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::343 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=sblachmann@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.16 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.988,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.14)[0.135,0]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[3.4.3.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: alt3.gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.30)[ip: (3.15), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.57), asn: 15169(-1.98), country: US(-0.07)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 11:06:37 -0000 On 2/18/19, Vladimir Kondratyev wrote: > On 2019-02-17 21:03, Steve Kargl wrote: >> Anyone have insight into what evdev is? > evdev.ko is a small in-kernel library that makes all your input events > like keyboard presses libinput-compatible. And libinput was created by the Freedesktop Wayland team to create pressure on OS people to make their systems Wayland-compatible. >> I do not need nor what these modules loaded. > I think removing "option EVDEV_SUPPORT" from your kernel config should > disable most of evdev.ko dependencies Shouldn't the EVDEV_SUPPORT default be off on FreeBSD anyway, as well as libinput not be part of the standard packages? The Freedesktop Wayland team consists of people with the Kay Sievers mentality, which made Linus Torvalds ban his contributions. They do not care about the bugs they introduce, forcing others to clean up the mess they create. I'd be glad if FreeBSD would keep clean of following that Wayland fad...