From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 26 11:54:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB5237B405 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pd6mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DEB43FBD for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:54:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from colin.percival@wadham.ox.ac.uk) Received: from pd4mr1so.prod.shaw.ca (pd4mr1so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.212]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HH3004EBR3ZIN@l-daemon> for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:52:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pn2ml8so.prod.shaw.ca (pn2ml8so-qfe0.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.121.152]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HH300F8TR3ZDW@l-daemon> for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:52:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from piii600.wadham.ox.ac.uk (h24-87-233-42.vc.shawcable.net [24.87.233.42]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.16 (built May 14 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HH3009IWR3YXM@l-daemon> for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:52:47 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 11:52:44 -0700 From: Colin Percival In-reply-to: <3EF94580.90001@reversedhell.net> X-Sender: cperciva@popserver.sfu.ca To: Alin-Adrian Anton , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Message-id: <5.0.2.1.1.20030626114845.01e0a150@popserver.sfu.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: replacing sendmail with qmail X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:54:31 -0000 At 09:47 25/06/2003 +0300, Alin-Adrian Anton wrote: >As sendmail showed to be so vulnerable in the past, and even in the recent >past, I was wondering to propose removing it from the default install on >freebsd. Currently, sendmail comes with the system sources, and runs as >root. I think this is bad, and it could be replaced with qmail, for >example. Or, something else, if you think something else is more secure. >Please let me know if this is possible, or why if not, and to whom shall I >address this idea (I wonder why it didn't happen yet). This topic has arisen many times in the past. Basically, it comes down to this: Every MTA has its supporters and detractors; FreeBSD needs to have an MTA; FreeBSD currently has Sendmail. It's simply not worth changing at the moment. If you want to use qmail, go ahead and install it from the ports tree. At some time in the distant future, when FreeBSD is fully packagized, it's quite likely that Sendmail will be just one of many installable options; but that time hasn't come yet. Colin Percival