From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 10 18:34:38 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DEB16A4CE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:34:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from web53904.mail.yahoo.com (web53904.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.36.214]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 54E3D43D41 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:34:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 71130 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Feb 2005 18:34:37 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=B4LdEX8wJbjUcN9eSDT4zCAbu8xs/p+Eq1dlcLyI0wCt9Oj9ly9+AhVys/qWpCSBcDIwNI7CSld5cqfpPdtyljLylSb+j3tczGzrKh0wamoseSu1vC0Q2amExEmoTS8MSnxlN2A6/5LmTvO1pp/h3S7lIm3SIdrhOTIQS2dkbYo= ; Message-ID: <20050210183437.71128.qmail@web53904.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [68.210.34.46] by web53904.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:34:36 PST Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:34:36 -0800 (PST) From: stheg olloydson To: Johnson David , freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <9C4E897FB284BF4DBC9C0DC42FB34617641AD5@mvaexch01.acuson.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: RE: SPAM: Score 2.5: Re: FreeBSD logo design competition X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 18:34:39 -0000 --- Johnson David wrote: > From: stheg olloydson [mailto:stheg_olloydson@yahoo.com] > > > > Now as to the "need" to change the logo, to quote the announcement, > > "This character sometimes treated with misinterpreted in the > > religious and cultural context." Over the years, the only > complaints I > > have ever heard have come from America's Taliban. Leaving aside the > > question of whether or not the complainers are in a position to > make > > any sort of IT decision, one must ask what is their motivation for > > complaining. They are simply trying to force their religious > orthodoxy > > on others. These are the same people trying to eliminate the > barrier > > between state and church to make the United States into a > theocratic > > country. Therefore, these complaints can be categorized as coming > from > > an irrational minority that should be ignored. > > Please keep your personal politics and cultural bigotry off of these > lists. > There is no "America's Taliban", and the use of the term is used > solely to > incite emotions. Thinking that just because people share you views on > operating systems they must also share you views on religion and > foreign > policy is sheer hubris. > > I realize that geeks and hackers tend to be irreligious, and Open > Source a > collection of global communities, but not until today have I seen > such > anti-Christian and anti-America bigotry in the FreeBSD community. Is > this to > be the new standard of discourse? If so, tell me now so I can avoid > the rush > in switching to another BSD. > > As a Christian I am not in the least offended by Beastie. But I am > getting > quite offended by people stereotyping my religion, nation and > culture. > > David Johnson > Well, well, well! Hit too close to home did I? I said that those complaining about the beastie belong to an irrational minority that wish to impose their religion on others. In what way is this statement bigotry or anti-Christian or anti-American? You, however, make a very revealing statement when you say, "But I am getting quite offended by people stereotyping my religion, nation and culture." The operative word here is "my". Why do you think that I am not a Christian American produced by the same culture as you? Is it because I have a name not typically associated with being an American? I think your assumption proves my "xenophobia" remark, at least in regards to you, don't you? Best regards, Stheg Olloydson __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! - Get yours free! http://my.yahoo.com