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Date:      Tue, 9 Dec 1997 11:55:54 -0600
From:      "Kent S. Gordon" <kgor@inetspace.com>
To:        dag-erli@ifi.uio.no
Cc:        nate@mt.sri.com, hackers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: isa.c
Message-ID:  <199712091755.LAA01224@chess.inetspace.com>
In-Reply-To: <xzpd8j74jpr.fsf@hrotti.ifi.uio.no> (dag-erli@ifi.uio.no)

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>>>>> "dag-erli" == Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav <dag-erli@ifi.uio.no> writes:

    > Nate Williams <nate@mt.sri.com> writes:
    >> > > > > You'd be much better off upgrading to 2.2.5R, as I
    >> suspect his patches > > > > apply to that pretty cleanly.  > >
    >> > I have a list of good reasons for not upgrading to 2.2.2R,
    >> and a > > > longer one for not upgrading to 2.2.5R.  > > And
    >> those would be?  > Amongst other items, lack of a suitable
    >> backup device No need to backup.  It's a piece of cake to
    >> upgrade w/out doing a

    > In my book, there is a difference between what is possible and
    > what is actually advisable. For instance, it is quite possible
    > to just switch your computer off when you're done, without
    > thrashing your file systems; however, most people prefer to quit
    > all applications, log out, and shut down properly, because they
    > want to be *sure* not to thrash their file systems. Similarly,
    > although it is possible to install 2.2.5 over 2.2.1 without any
    > problems, most people will prefer to back up their data first.

    > Some day, IMCFT, I'll try what you suggest, then 'accidentally'
    > screw up, lose everything, and watch you trying very hard not to
    > tell me I should have backed up.

    > By the way, one of the other items on my list is that I need to
    > repartition my hard drive. I'm sure you'll tell me I can do that
    > without backing up, too.

    >> backup/restore.  Just download the sources, do a 'make world',
    >> re-config

    > "Just download the sources" is easier said than done with a v34
    > modem.

    >> and install a new kernel, and reboot.  A few hours work, but
    >> certainly not rocket science.

    > What if my system is slightly "customized", and things stop
    > working after the upgrade? Amongst other things, there is quite
    > a bit of brain damage in 2.2.1 boot scripts, which I have tried
    > to remedy by custom- izing said scripts.

    >> > and reports of degraded performance in 2.2.5R.  I haven't
    >> seen many of those reports, and I haven't experienced any

    > I know people (*not* FOAFs, but real people with names and
    > faces) who have experienced quite serious problems, amongst
    > other things with SCSI performance, after upgrading from 2.2.1R
    > to 2.2.5R.

Or worse, a machine that would no longer boot.  This happened to me going
from 2.2.2R to 2.2.5R.  The machine in question now runs linux :(.
This is documented in PR kern/4864.

    > -- * Finrod (INTJ) * Unix weenie * dag-erli@ifi.uio.no *
    > cellular +47-92835919 * RFC1123: "Be liberal in what you accept,
    > and conservative in what you send" # unzip ; strip ; touch ;
    > finger ; mount ; fsck ; more ; yes ; umount ; sleep

Kent S. Gordon
Architect
iNetSpace Co.
voice: (972)851-3494 fax:(972)702-0384 e-mail:kgor@inetspace.com




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