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Date:      Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:14:14 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Jason Young <doogie@anet-stl.com>
To:        Troy Settle <st@i-plus.net>
Cc:        Stuart Henderson <stuart@eclipse.net.uk>, "Bryn Wm. Moslow" <bryn@nwlink.com>, Ben Vaughn <bvaughn@prophetnetworks.net>, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: cistron and speed limiting?
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.990720111315.11243A-100000@earth.anet-stl.com>
In-Reply-To: <NDBBJIEPPJNIOAKGFIBDIEPECAAA.st@i-plus.net>

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"Bandwidth usage expands to fill the space alotted."

A 1200 baud modem user probably won't use say, streaming audio and video
and other high bandwidth things. The ISDN people will. 

Jason Young
accessUS Chief Network Engineer

On Tue, 20 Jul 1999, Troy Settle wrote:

> 
> I'm don't have a solution to the problem presented, and I'm not a business
> owner/manager, but from everything I understand of the situation, the
> problem is likely not valid in the first place.  Consider...
> 
> The single most expensive part of offering dialup internet access is
> getting the user connected to you (PRI and NAS).  Now, if user is on a
> 1200 baud modem (extreme low), and browsing the web or downloading a file,
> he's going to take much longer than the user using 64k ISDN.
> 
> This would suggest that the user on a faster connection would be connected
> for a shorter period of time, and using up less resources.  The user using
> a slower modem will be connected longer, using up more resources.  Now,
> who should be paying more?
> 
> All of our incoming lines are digital, capable of allowing users to
> connect from 1200 up to 64k.  We charge only $18.95 for un-metered,
> unrestricted usage.  For MLPPP access, we charge an additional $14.95 per
> channel for as many channels as the user wants.  It works very well,
> covering the cost of lines and access servers.
> 
> 
> --
>   Troy Settle
>   iPlus Internet Services
> 
> It's always a long day... 86400 doesn't fit into a short.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Stuart Henderson
> > Sent: Friday, July 16, 1999 2:58 PM
> > To: Bryn Wm. Moslow
> > Cc: Ben Vaughn; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG
> > Subject: Re: cistron and speed limiting?
> >
> >
> > > >         We use cistron radius as our radius type and I was
> > > > wondering if anyone on this list has used this to successfully
> > > > limit users speeds?
> >
> > This is NAS-dependent. With some NAS you can for example set config
> > parameters so that calls coming in on a certain called-station-id
> > are restricted to a given speed. From there you can get radius to
> > check which number a user is calling and deny or allow based on that.
> >
> > The US market is very, very different to the British market, I can't
> > think of a major UK ISP that charges a premium for 64k ISDN, and the
> > 128k stuff is fairly easily handled by setting port-limit in the
> > response :-)
> >
> > This is probably better directed at the mailing list relevant to
> > whichever NAS you use.
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> >
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