From owner-svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Fri Jul 5 16:10:41 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5B5015CF0FC; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6812F7687D; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:10:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danfe@freebsd.org) Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1033) id 39DDEE57D; Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:10:41 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2019 16:10:41 +0000 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Gerald Pfeifer Cc: Mark Linimon , Piotr Kubaj , Cy Schubert , "Jason W. Bacon" , ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Subject: Re: USE_GCC=any -> USE_GCC=yes (was: svn commit: r504198 - head/Mk) Message-ID: <20190705161041.GA84307@FreeBSD.org> References: <20190614165425.GA42674@FreeBSD.org> <8BDC3B40-7FEA-46EA-AE7C-A3C266F6978F@cschubert.com> <20190614175822.GA3336@FreeBSD.org> <20190615061345.GA20346@lonesome.com> <20190615084354.GA33091@ThinkPad-X200.g.anongoth.pl> <20190704203112.GA6138@lonesome.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.11.4 (2019-03-13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 6812F7687D X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.82 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.82)[-0.820,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2019 16:10:41 -0000 On Thu, Jul 04, 2019 at 11:16:53PM +0200, Gerald Pfeifer wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jul 2019, Mark Linimon wrote: > > But ... what I understand is that "any" means "it's ok to use base > > gcc". That was always the intended difference to "yes" which means > > "you *must* use a recent gcc" [e.g. from ports]. > > > > I don't really see why we need to add the dependency on a newer gcc > > if the version in base suffices. What am I missing here? > > I think we agree that nearly all FreeBSD users and developers are on > amd64 (or i386). Well... :-) > When a port maintainer or committer sets USE_GCC=any she and (nearly) > everyone else therefore uses GCC 8 as of today. > > When that port is then built on powerpc64, USE_GCC=any implies the age > old GCC 4.2 in base, and thus the build is attempted with a compiler > very, very different from what the original maintainer/committer/testers > and users had. I'd have to agree with Mark here: the literal reading of "any" means "it's OK to use base GCC" if it's available. While I understand that it's aged and on x86 it's the same as USE_GCC=yes, it's still a bad idea to change the meaning of words. ./danfe