From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Feb 1 13:26:36 1995 Return-Path: hackers-owner Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) id NAA07330 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 13:26:36 -0800 Received: from cs.weber.edu (cs.weber.edu [137.190.16.16]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA07318 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 13:26:28 -0800 Received: by cs.weber.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1.1) id AA08191; Wed, 1 Feb 95 14:19:19 MST From: terry@cs.weber.edu (Terry Lambert) Message-Id: <9502012119.AA08191@cs.weber.edu> Subject: Re: New Apple+Intel machine To: jaitken@cslab.cs.vt.edu (Jeff Aitken) Date: Wed, 1 Feb 95 14:19:18 MST Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <9502011703.AA27154@cslab.cs.vt.edu> from "Jeff Aitken" at Feb 1, 95 12:03:27 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4dev PL52] Sender: hackers-owner@FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > I'm still evaluating possible machines for the recommended student > configuration in a year, and the latest test macchine I've received is > an Apple with the PowerPC chip (I forget which model number it is) which > also has an Intel 486 (or pentium, one or the other) on a daughtercard. > This beast is supposedly able to run MAC and IBM stuff simultaneously, > so what I'm wondering is what the chances are of getting one of the > *BSD's on it. Has anyone used one of these things? I know NetBSD works > on the MAC, but I think only the 68k variety. Is this true? You might be able to run on the intel part of it, depending on how faithfully it acts like PC hardware. The Mac with the PPC chip is not supported by anyone but Apple right now, mostly because Apple won't provide sufficient technical information about the hardware to write UNIX-style device drivers (I think they cut a deal with the MACHTen people, though). Otherwise, I'd have one early last year, and it would be running BSD now. Apple's loss. Maybe when CHRP (pronounced "chirp"), which is the compromise replacement for a real PPC standard, PReP, is finally signed on to by all the players, we'll be able to pry hardware specifications from Apple's cold, dead fingers. After all, 100% of 6% is better than 20% of 100% (get a life, Apple). What, me bitter? Terry Lambert terry@cs.weber.edu --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.