From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Nov 12 12:42:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-64.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0396815038 for ; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 12:42:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA01044; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:41:33 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00389; Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:23:54 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199911121823.SAA00389@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 To: Josef Karthauser Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: Severe problems with softupdates. In-Reply-To: Message from Josef Karthauser of "Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:11:49 GMT." <19991111201148.A5748@florence.pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:23:54 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [.....] > I believe that Brian has also had the same problems (at FreeBSDCon). > > Can people put their hands up if they believe that they've experienced this > so that we can determine whether there's a deeper softupdates problem that > we're ignoring on faith? I have to admit that I had a rather nasty crash while doing an installworld @FreeBSDCon. The result was a trashed /usr/bin and /usr/lib among other things. When I eventually got the machine back up, another installworld sorted things out. Sooo, I don't think in my case that anything was hurt that wasn't actually being updated, *but*, I did see some ``UNEXPECTED SOFT UPDATE INCONSISTENCY'' messages when it failed to ``fsck -p'' ! I don't know enough about the fs code to say what the problem is, or even to deny that it's a transient hardware problem.... perhaps encountered during a critical bit of softupdate syncing code and causing a hard crash ???!? [.....] > Joe. > -- > Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? > Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) > Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message