From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 11 10:01:51 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECB0106566B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexandr.kovalenko@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E978FC1B; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk8 with SMTP id 8so8424529gxk.13 for ; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 02:01:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=hZCkFwUz+R33kkJsoFg7UL1Ene0pSBsulAsUlJXtDVs=; b=VYAtE5XxDYK1Hhkc1FZbVXn41c5pNG+5F29K4MQ87KacpqIHm0w6ein4pfiRFpD9/A c96s/lEOGa/I+nlOkMfTlBgkSEatOcjLLglE0mWowYSwvI+vFTfv54TqgMnLB83tHZOs 9VOA0/3ooTw522ByKbW4YvFxUxIE20DU29byE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=iivrIdBEj+qUpKzrB0pnczxvTLqEgrDCgIM55qfdRGbiUtfSr1sezwHDV5dDhE2YHK XHGWj4irnX/zgfQIPzsj2JDdf6aJt2YLSwO1KaDm+LB2C5ZBYhEYdDmC9DZM8w9fDzby t4uXxlxUJE1Zvr2rra5amyZE/8Nre7gnw8Orc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.132.9 with SMTP id f9mr1216026and.26.1294740109347; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 02:01:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.232.5 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jan 2011 02:01:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20110111081302.GD21802@gahrfit.gahr.ch> References: <201101031236.p03CanQY094523@repoman.freebsd.org> <20110111081302.GD21802@gahrfit.gahr.ch> Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 12:01:49 +0200 Message-ID: From: Alexandr Kovalenko To: gahr@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: cvs-ports@freebsd.org, miwi@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/net-im/openfire Makefile distinfo pkg-plist ports/net-im/openfire/files patch-build-build.xml X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: **OBSOLETE** CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 10:01:51 -0000 On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Pietro Cerutti wrote: > On 2011-Jan-10, 20:33, Alexandr Kovalenko wrote: >> Beta? >> >> May I ask, why this went into net-im/openfire port, but not to new >> port net-im/openfire-devel ? > > Ok, I guess I owe an explanation here, since quite a few people have > raised concerns about me committing a beta version to openfire/. > > I am personally against -devel ports. These tends to get marked as > IGNORE or anyway no longer be valid after the -devel branch has turned > to stable. I prefer to keep the latest available version in myport/, > upon user request, keep previous (stable and maintained) versions in > myport10, myport11, etc... See for example java/netbeans, java/netbeans5, > java/netbeans55, java/netbeans61. This brings two advantages: > > - the cost of maintaining a previous version in myport10/ is ~=3D 0 > - the myport/ directory always contains the latest available version > > It is a porter's discretion to ponder wheter a particular release > version is stable enough to get into the main myport/ directory. > > In this particular case, openfire-3.7.0.beta seemed to my workable enough= . Can you understand, that many of people use ports in production systems (surprise!) and expect NO beta versions in non -devel ports, no sudden breakage of their systems without any notice in UPDATING and so on, whatever you personally think about that. Ports system is not your personal sandbox/private branch of ports. It is what people use on their production systems. If you want to commit beta, you have 2 choices: 1. Wait until non-beta to commit. 2. Commit beta to -devel port after repocopy. > Users have reported problems upgrading their configuration, and this is > the reason for me requesting a repocopy to backport the previous version > to openfire36. Even if (although, I think it is totally incorrect) you really wanted/it was needed to commit -beta version, you should have reversed order of procedures: 1. Become aware of incompatibilities and problems 2. Repocopy of openfire to openfire36 3. Commit your -beta to openfire 4. ADD to UPDATING file note about this, because such change won't get > I welcome any feedbacks on this matter. > > Best Regards, > >> >> On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Pietro Cerutti wrote: >> > gahr =A0 =A0 =A0 =A02011-01-03 12:36:49 UTC >> > >> > =A0FreeBSD ports repository >> > >> > =A0Modified files: >> > =A0 =A0net-im/openfire =A0 =A0 =A0Makefile distinfo pkg-plist >> > =A0Removed files: >> > =A0 =A0net-im/openfire/files patch-build-build.xml >> > =A0Log: >> > =A0- Update to 3.7.0.beta >> > =A0 =A0Release notes: http://community.igniterealtime.org/blogs/ignite= /2010/08/26/openfire-370-beta-is-released >> > >> > =A0Revision =A0Changes =A0 =A0Path >> > =A01.28 =A0 =A0 =A0+4 -4 =A0 =A0 =A0ports/net-im/openfire/Makefile >> > =A01.20 =A0 =A0 =A0+2 -3 =A0 =A0 =A0ports/net-im/openfire/distinfo >> > =A01.2 =A0 =A0 =A0 +0 -10 =A0 =A0 ports/net-im/openfire/files/patch-bu= ild-build.xml (dead) >> > =A01.14 =A0 =A0 =A0+29 -2 =A0 =A0 ports/net-im/openfire/pkg-plist >> > _______________________________________________ >> > cvs-all@freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/cvs-all >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "cvs-all-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Alexandr Kovalenko >> http://uafug.org.ua/ > > -- > Pietro Cerutti > The FreeBSD Project > gahr@FreeBSD.org > > PGP Public Key: > http://gahr.ch/pgp > --=20 Alexandr Kovalenko http://uafug.org.ua/