From owner-freebsd-bugs Sat Nov 15 09:53:29 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA20990 for bugs-outgoing; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 09:53:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-bugs) Received: from post.mail.demon.net (post-20.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA20984 for ; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 09:53:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jraynard@jraynard.demon.co.uk) Received: from jraynard.demon.co.uk ([158.152.42.77]) by post.mail.demon.net id aa2027170; 15 Nov 97 17:47 GMT Received: (from jraynard@localhost) by jraynard.demon.co.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA02324; Sat, 15 Nov 1997 17:42:05 GMT (envelope-from jraynard) Message-ID: <19971115174204.44700@jraynard.demon.co.uk> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 17:42:04 +0000 From: James Raynard To: Evan Champion Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bin/5050 References: <199711151543.HAA01057@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: ; from Evan Champion on Sat, Nov 15, 1997 at 10:47:14AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Sat, Nov 15, 1997 at 10:47:14AM -0500, Evan Champion wrote: > > tcl 8.0 beta is already there... Unless I'm way off, someone just needs > to sync up the .c and .h files with the 8.0p1 distribution... I was talking about perl - did I get the PRs mixed up? That seems to be on a par with everything else I've done recently :-( Anyway, the basic point is that putting something into the base source tree isn't just a question of getting it to compile or copying over an existing port - it also involves fitting it into the way the source tree works, in particular converting everything to use Berkeley make files (I can assure you this isn't as trivial as it sounds). As you probably know, FreeBSD is a volunteer project. This means that the only way something gets done is if someone with the ability and the motivation to do it finds the time to do it. The usual "motivation" for getting something done, namely waving money around, isn't available (although I'm sure no-one would object to a precedent being set :-) and leaping up and down shouting "My god, this is so out of date it's outrageous!" is more likely to antagonise people (I'm not accusing you personally of that, just trying to explain the situation). On the other hand, being a volunteer project means that it's open to everyone to contribute, and this can often be the quickest way to get something you want done. So if there is anyone out there who feels up to doing the necessary, go for it! -- In theory, theory is better than practice. In practice, it isn't. James Raynard, Edinburgh, Scotland. http://www.freebsd.org/~jraynard/