From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 24 00:37:50 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 648EB16A41F for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 00:37:50 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from canning.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8871143D49 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2005 00:37:48 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from fw.wemm.org (canning.wemm.org [192.203.228.65]) by canning.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5FA2A9A6 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:42:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by fw.wemm.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDEBE2B5 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:42:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.wemm.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j8NNgQ4H093542; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:42:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by overcee.wemm.org (8.13.4/8.13.1/Submit) id j8NNgLiI093541; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:42:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Authentication-Warning: overcee.wemm.org: peter set sender to peter@wemm.org using -f From: Peter Wemm To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 16:42:21 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.1 References: <20050922104410.30caf3ce.kgunders@teamcool.net> <20050922160306.56ee6529.kgunders@teamcool.net> <433340EE.80201@deadcafe.de> In-Reply-To: <433340EE.80201@deadcafe.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200509231642.21828.peter@wemm.org> Cc: Daniel Rock Subject: Re: 90nm core opterons scrapped? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 00:37:50 -0000 On Thursday 22 September 2005 04:40 pm, Daniel Rock wrote: > Ken Gunderson schrieb: > > Well, yeah, they're definitely faster. Also another $700 each more > > expensive. I need them for a project and have been waiting on them > > for 4 months now, each month AMD pushing them out another 30 days. > > Getting to be freakin' ridiculous! But definitely not very funny. > > AMD is now telling my distributor that the 90nm cores were NEVER > > released, wh/I don't find very believable. So I am curious, does > > anyone have any 90nm cores, or is the AMD guy telling the truth > > about th CG being the "most recent"? > > You misunderstood. The E4/90nm cores are shipping - but only the > faster ones (Opteron x46 onwards). I have two perfectly working > Opteron 252 in my box - they only exist as 90nm cores. I'm fairly sceptical that AMD produced any 90nm 244's. I'd wager that they had plenty of old stock left over of the slower cores in 130nm and that it wasn't financially worth making new ones to replace the perfectly functional old ones. Anyway, thats what I suspect. If one wants an E4 90nm build, it probably means buying a click or two faster. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5