Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:16:47 -0800 From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca> To: Matt Dillon <dillon@earth.backplane.com> Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@ofug.org>, Mark Murray <mark@grondar.za>, arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: List of things to move from main tree to ports (was Re: Wish List (was: Re: The /usr/bin/games bikeshed again)) Message-ID: <200102161917.f1GJHPl29820@cwsys.cwsent.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:05:34 PST." <200102161905.f1GJ5Yw01853@earth.backplane.com>
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In message <200102161905.f1GJ5Yw01853@earth.backplane.com>, Matt Dillon writes: > :> I'll collect all the responses from the list together and put together > :> a comprehensive list, then post it tonight. > : > :Please move Sendmail to ports. People should have a choice of which > :MTA they want to use. Sendmail should not have any special status when > :compared to other MTA's in ports. Qmail and postfix are quite popular > :too and they are in ports. > : > :BIND: There is a growing groundswell in favour of djbdns. People > :should have a choice. Once again if they choose djbdns, BIND takes up > :space that could be used by other software on the disk. Economy. > > I have to disagree. Our base system must be operational without forcing > people to install certain ports. We need a working bind and a working > mail subsystem in the base system. We can let people turn it off, but we > can't shift these to ports. > > In regards to djbdns... as much as I aplaud security-centric designs, > the djbdns code is virtually unmaintainable -- unformatted, uncommented, > and a mess. Despite his essentricities Paul Vixie and the code he produce > s > is a whole lot easier to work with. I'd rather wait for Bind-9 to > stabilize and then move the base system to that then to shift to djbdns. > > (I'll add these to the list under 'extremely controversial', which they > are). One could say the same about the "r" commands, telnet, and ftp. For telnet and ftp: Extremely controversial. For the "r" commands, I'd rate the issue as half way between controversial and extremely controversial. What do you think? Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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