From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 21 10:32:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D4014F5E for ; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.10 1999/10/20 18:19:05 spurcell Exp $) with ESMTP id KAA21179; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:32:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id KAA11744; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:32:20 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id NAA24505; Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:32:34 -0400 (EDT) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14351.20015.691962.888252@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:32:31 -0700 (MST) To: Bill Paul Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Intel PRO/1000 Gigabit driver In-Reply-To: <199910211726.NAA12122@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> References: <14351.18373.418811.886740@hip186.ch.intel.com> <199910211726.NAA12122@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Thursday, October 21, Bill Paul wrote: ] > Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, John Reynolds~ > had to walk into mine and say: > > > Just in case anyone is wondering, I refuse to create BSD drivers based > soley on information from Linux drivers. I don't want any damn Linux > source: I want the programming manual used to create the driver in > the first place. Why? If Intel is willing to release unencumbered > Linux source, then they should be willing to release the manual as well. > If they're not willing, then I don't want anything to do with them. hey, I'm just the messenger ... I don't even work in the same division as the network peripherals people much less know who to talk to about it. Yes, I work for the company, but I do not condone the act of keeping all this hardware information "secret" ... after having been screwed on many projects over this very issue, you'd think the "suits" would figure it out, but alas, they don't. > You work for Intel yet claim technical ignorance? I dunno man... :) DOH! In network card drivers, linux kernel code, and gory FreeBSD internals, yes. In ASIC design, VHDL synthesis, and working on old Mustangs, no. ;-) -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message