Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 22:30:25 -0800 From: Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org> To: Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org>, slw@zxy.spb.ru Cc: FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Packaging the FreeBSD base system with pkg(8) Message-ID: <CAH7qZfuMNVNQeOvy=Ka2pEGv2C%2Bc87R=75iLBJbdWCKVkYq3eg@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <56AA3D54.5020502@freebsd.org> References: <20160127223323.GG98557@FreeBSD.org> <183431.62409.bm@smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20160128131806.GB67200@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <20160128160622.GB88527@zxy.spb.ru> <56AA3D54.5020502@freebsd.org>
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That would be like trying to install FreeBSD 11 on PDP-11 hardware. Good luck with that, Slawa, you'll need it! :) On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 8:09 AM, Allan Jude <allanjude@freebsd.org> wrote: > On 2016-01-28 11:06, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 02:18:06PM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > >> On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 12:46:39PM +0000, Thomas Mueller wrote: > >>> from Glen Barber: > >>> > >>>> As many know, work has been in progress for quite some time to provide > >>>> the ability to package and upgrade the FreeBSD base system using > pkg(8). > >>>> The majority of the initial implementation has provided much of the > core > >>>> functionality to make this possible, however much work still needs to > be > >>>> done. > >>> > >>> (snip) > >>> > >>> Would the base system all be one package? > >> > >> multiple packages with meta packages to represent the whole base so you > have the > >> best of both world :) > >>> > >>> In Linux, everything is part of a package, even the kernel, but > something comparable to FreeBSD or NetBSD base system would have many > packages. > >>> > >>> Will it be possible to upgrade base system with portmaster or > portupgrade, and would that be better than the current procedure in > UPDATING? > >> > >> No but one will be able to simply run pkg upgrade (and built himself the > >> packages) > >>> > >>> Would pkg then be able to show a package's required shared libraries > including shared libraries from the base system? I was recently stung by > pkg not showing required shared libraries from the base system. > >> > >> Yes, but but real usage of it would happen in a second step because of > many > >> rought edges to be deal with. but yes the information would be available > >> > >> see: > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br6izhH5P1I > >> and > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7px6ktoDAI > >> > >> for a bigger view of what happened (note that some detail my have > change a bit, > >> the overall remains the same) > > > > What about upgrade strongly outdated system? > > For example 11.0 at time 18.0? I.e. packages for 11.0 don't available, > > pkg from 11.0 don't undertund package base from 18.0 and etc. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > According to our current release schedule, FreeBSD 18.0 will not come > out for 35 years (2051). > > The general approach would appear to be just downloading new packages > and updating the system. For a drastic upgrade like that, you'd likely > have to build a newer version of pkg from ports. > > The approach for offering an upgrade from 10.x to 11.0 will be the more > interesting endeavour. > > -- > Allan Jude > >
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