From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Mon May 27 23:47:37 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3676015AE581 for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 23:47:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ota@j.email.ne.jp) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B588BCDC for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 23:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ota@j.email.ne.jp) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 63AD715AE579; Mon, 27 May 2019 23:47:36 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514A715AE575 for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 23:47:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ota@j.email.ne.jp) Received: from mail02.asahi-net.or.jp (mail02.asahi-net.or.jp [202.224.55.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2675D8BCD4 for ; Mon, 27 May 2019 23:47:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ota@j.email.ne.jp) Received: from vmware.advok.com (pool-72-76-119-135.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net [72.76.119.135]) (Authenticated sender: NR2Y-OOT) by mail02.asahi-net.or.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4987C3EBDF; Tue, 28 May 2019 08:47:27 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 19:46:45 -0400 From: Yoshihiro Ota To: Warner Losh Cc: ota@j.email.ne.jp, "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Time to retire PC Card (but not CardBus) Message-Id: <20190527194645.f1942efa17cbeb1646181dd7@j.email.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i386-portbld-freebsd12.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2675D8BCD4 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ota@j.email.ne.jp designates 202.224.55.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ota@j.email.ne.jp X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.97 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[14.55.224.202.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:202.224.55.0/24]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[email.ne.jp]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.76)[0.762,0]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[135.119.76.72.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.10]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: sbmx.asahi-net.or.jp]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; IP_SCORE(0.07)[asn: 4685(0.42), country: JP(-0.05)]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:4685, ipnet:202.224.32.0/19, country:JP]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 May 2019 23:47:37 -0000 Hi, I think I have a couple of PCMCIA cards and/or bus. How do I check? Thanks, Hiro On Thu, 23 May 2019 18:34:46 -0600 Warner Losh wrote: > Greetings, > > Now that a number of 16-bit drivers have been retired, I think it's time to > retire 16-bit PC Card / PCMCIA cards. The 32-bit CardBus cards are still > alive and kicking, but the need for 16-bit PC Cards has passed. It's time > to retire it. > > I've floated this idea before, and there was broad support for it. I've > held off until after FCP 101 deprecation was playing out. We've not pushed > that into the tree. This is the logical next step. FreeBSD 12.x will be the > last release with 16-bit PC Card support. > > My plan is to add deprecation notices to the remaining PC Card drivers, > merge those back to FreeBSD 11 and 12. Once that's done, I plan on removing > the 16-bit support. I have a few minor bug fixes to that which I'll push in > before I retire it, and merge those fixes. > > My plan is to give about a month for the community to discuss this plan > before I add the warnings. If there's resistance, we'll go with more formal > data collection and deprecation. If there's none, I'll go ahead. > > This affects the following drivers: an, cmx, fdc, puc, uart, wi, bt3c, ata. > > Warner > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-arch@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arch-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"