From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Jan 6 15:54: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66FE237B41F for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2002 15:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58C33782FC; Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:23:11 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 10:23:11 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: jacks@sage-american.com Cc: Joe & Fhe Barbish , FBSD Questions Subject: Re: Editors in base FBSD Message-ID: <20020107102311.G45844@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <3.0.5.32.20020106095140.01937458@mail.sage-american.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20020106095140.01937458@mail.sage-american.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sunday, 6 January 2002 at 9:51:40 -0600, jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > At 10:23 AM 1.6.2002 -0500, Joe & Fhe Barbish wrote: >> >> I know of vi and ee = very primitive and just primitive >> that are part of the base. Are there any others? If you think vi is very primitive, let alone more primitive than ee, then you've missed something. It's not primitive, it's very powerful, but also a pain to use. >> Are there any command line mouse enabled >> cut & past editors in FBSD? > > Joe: You might consider running your FBSD box(es) directly from your > Windowze workstaton (on LAN) using a telnet client like CRT (or even > SecureCRT). It has all of the abilities for using the copy to > clipboard as with the other win apps... I can't possibly think of a worse solution. I've never seen a Microsoft-based telnet client that wasn't broken, the telnet protocol is insecure, and I've never seen a really good editor which runs under Microsoft. > In fact, I hardly ever use the consoles at the FBSD boxes and use > the Windoze Destop CRT to login to each FBSD box.... now, you have > the best of all worlds with the usual win bells/whistles.... I wonder why you use FreeBSD at all. And now the obligatory Emacs plug. Yes, you *can* use the mouse with Emacs. Yes, you *can* cut, copy and paste (much more easily than with Microsoft). From time to time I have visitors here who have never used UNIX of any flavour, but who want to read (and reply to) their mail. I've given them Emacs to play with (under X, of course), no instruction, and they were able to cope. On the other hand, Emacs is much more powerful than anything I've ever seen under Microsoft (including the Microsoft port of Emacs, available in the Cygwin package). Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message